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26 July 2016
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Just watched 24hours in police custody about a lass that dumped a dead fellow adicts body in the park. She got 2.5 years for it.

It has raised a few questons to me the first being the police investigation seemed about right to me but putting a drug addict that lets be honest is really not thinking like a normal person in prison was not the right way to go as she was not playing with a full deck of cards at the time so to speak and in her words just panicked.
 
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FWIW I personally think locking up users and addicts is not the way forward. These people need help, assurances, detoxing, safety (yes safety) and measures to prevent them from slipping again.
Locking them up is simply throwing them in the lion's den with drugs aplenty - which in turn means more draining on the system for a plethora of reasons and also means a cycle of drug use, crime and more.
Rehabilitation. Not reintroduction. Just my opinion really.
 
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FWIW I personally think locking up users and addicts is not the way forward. These people need help, assurances, detoxing, safety (yes safety) and measures to prevent them from slipping again.
Locking them up is simply throwing them in the lion's den with drugs aplenty - which in turn means more draining on the system for a plethora of reasons and also means a cycle of drug use, crime and more.
Rehabilitation. Not reintroduction. Just my opinion really.
I do follow what your saying but i was meaning more towards if she is full of class A did she move his body with criminal intent or was it fear made worse by whatever she had taken. I am all for punishing wrong doers but was she really doing a criminal act.

In reply to your post though i also dont think prison is the right place for addicts but not sure what is the right direction to go in with them
 
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I do follow what your saying but i was meaning more towards if she is full of class A did she move his body with criminal intent or was it fear made worse by whatever she had taken. I am all for punishing wrong doers but was she really doing a criminal act.

In reply to your post though i also dont think prison is the right place for addicts but not sure what is the right direction to go in with them
Ahh right. I was just going by this in your post;
but putting a drug addict that lets be honest is really not thinking like a normal person in prison was not the right way to go as she was not playing with a full deck of cards at the time so to speak and in her words just panicked.
 
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Ahh right. I was just going by this in your post;
But do you see her as having commited a criminal act by moving a dead body. I personally think a good brief would have got her Comunity Service or something - Putting her in prison wont make her not do it again
 
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But do you see her as having commited a criminal act by moving a dead body. I personally think a good brief would have got her Comunity Service or something - Putting her in prison wont make her not do it again
Agreed, that's a criminal act - but hard to say what made her do it. On Class A, most likely fear, paranoia, excitement, edginess and so on. No, it won't make her do it again and sadly it's because she is underprivileged and a user that she ended up getting a pretty long stretch for moving a dead body - maybe through panic. Who knows.
But if she had money and was on something powdery up her nose, (as in establishment) she'd have walked.
 
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It's very sad and I agree prison was probably not the right move, rehabilitation would have got a better outcome and maybe a clean person x
 
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Just watched 24hours in police custody about a lass that dumped a dead fellow adicts body in the park. She got 2.5 years for it.

It has raised a few questons to me the first being the police investigation seemed about right to me but putting a drug addict that lets be honest is really not thinking like a normal person in prison was not the right way to go as she was not playing with a full deck of cards at the time so to speak and in her words just panicked.
My view on such things generally is that addicts should first be placed in specialist drug rehabilitation 'prisons' and once drug free and psychologically assessed (many addicts have underlying mental health issues) they should be a second hearing for any other punishment that maybe required.
 
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...always makes interesting and thought-provoking reading if you compare sentences for others against. So she moved a dead body... 2.5 years. Knowingly defrauding thousands of people and in doing so becoming rich... 1 year. Criminal sentencing has needed sorting for decades. I think there's too much what you did as who you are involved.
 
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