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[Deleted member 3657]

That is exactly what I'm trying to say. No real swinger should ever go to a club thinking they are going to get laid. It's totally the wrong mindset. Go and chat and enjoy yourself socially and if anything comes of that it's a bonus.

Nothing to do with the question in all honesty.
So are people saying that an escort isn't a swinger? An escort is a person. Their profession is getting paid for sex. What if they have a partner, and meet a couple, go to a club, have sex just like everyone here wants to do, do we kick her/him out because away from swinging she or he gets paid for sex?

 

[DiamondJoe]

Aye. At a club you're paying for a (supposedly) safe, conducive and permissive environment where your might get laid. You're not actually paying for sex

It's probably some tortuous legal definition - it's a bit like porn.

With porn it's legal to pay two people to fuck, and film it and then make money from that.

But it remains illegal to simply pay an actor directly to have sex with you... and for it to be filmed and then make money out of.

The whole thing's bizarre

 

[DiamondJoe]

Nothing to do with the question in all honesty.
So are people saying that an escort isn't a swinger? An escort is a person. Their profession is getting paid for sex. What if they have a partner, and meet a couple, go to a club, have sex just like everyone here wants to do, do we kick her/him out because away from swinging she or he gets paid for sex?

Yes - escorts are professionals, swingers are amateurs

 

[Deleted member 3657]

Yes - escorts are professionals, swingers are amateurs

Anyone ever had a mate who's a mechanic and fixed your car for free???:hmm:

 

[DiamondJoe]

Anyone ever had a mate who's a mechanic and fixed your car for free???:hmm:

I work strictly pro bono

 

[Pearls]

I have no problem with escorts, we have friends who are escorts and they are hard working women, for many reasons that I can't mention, some ladies we know offer services for safety of others, they are not just street workers as you say @emyr and a lot more than that. This is not the question though and it's about escorts joining a swinging site...
Ok well I shall give you an example of a not so swinging couple.
A gent organises a meet with a couple at a hotel, he arrives and is told to pay a contribution of £60 towards the hotel cost, he thinks that is fair being new to all this but then he notices 6 other men come into the room, they also pay their £60 contribution, thinking he was meeting this couple alone, he now has another 6 gents all over this woman, the husband just sits back and watches counting his dosh. Is this swinging or pimping?

 

[DiamondJoe]

I have no problem with escorts, we have friends who are escorts and they are hard working women, for many reasons that I can't mention, some ladies we know offer services for safety of others, they are not just street workers as you say @emyr and a lot more than that. This is not the question though and it's about escorts joining a swinging site...
Ok well I shall give you an example of a not so swinging couple.
A gent organises a meet with a couple at a hotel, he arrives and is told to pay a contribution of £60 towards the hotel cost, he thinks that is fair being new to all this but then he notices 6 other men come into the room, they also pay their £60 contribution, thinking he was meeting this couple alone, he now has another 6 gents all over this woman, the husband just sits back and watches counting his dosh. Is this swinging or pimping?

Then no, it's not right - the couple have obtained money through false pretences

 

[The_Bibas]

You pay to go in yes but this NEVER guarantees you sex. The swinging scene is and should be so much more than that.

Such as?
Guaranteed sex?
It's no good stating "it should be much more" without at least an idea of how..
XxxBibaxxX

 

[Pearls]

Then no, it's not right - the couple have obtained money through false pretences

It's getting very popular too, I know of many that use swinging for business and advertise on Adult work as swingers x

 

[The_Bibas]

I have no problem with escorts, we have friends who are escorts and they are hard working women, for many reasons that I can't mention, some ladies we know offer services for safety of others, they are not just street workers as you say @emyr and a lot more than that. This is not the question though and it's about escorts joining a swinging site...
Ok well I shall give you an example of a not so swinging couple.
A gent organises a meet with a couple at a hotel, he arrives and is told to pay a contribution of £60 towards the hotel cost, he thinks that is fair being new to all this but then he notices 6 other men come into the room, they also pay their £60 contribution, thinking he was meeting this couple alone, he now has another 6 gents all over this woman, the husband just sits back and watches counting his dosh. Is this swinging or pimping?

She has gone back to the fun fair... Hair and all and taken her funnel... OK she was gross... But that isn't being like the two girls we know.. OK they do parties but you know what you are getting into..
Misleading people will always exist unfortunately..
Is it pimping?... She seemed to be the boss...

XxxBibaxxX

 

[Pearls]

She has gone back to the fun fair... Hair and all and taken her funnel... OK she was gross... But that isn't being like the two girls we know.. OK they do parties but you know what you are getting into..
Misleading people will always exist unfortunately..
Is it pimping?... She seemed to be the boss...

XxxBibaxxX

The same husband had a different wife the following week, at the same hotel.. x

 

[The_Bibas]

The same husband had a different wife the following week, at the same hotel.. x

Nooooooooo!

What about her overseas website and all the twitter crap?
Him?

 

[DiamondJoe]

It's getting very popular too, I know of many that use swinging for business and advertise on Adult work as swingers x

It depends on two things:

* What are reasonable costs?
* Does everyone understand fully what will happen?

If those two things are satisfied, I'd say fill your boots. If there's a question mark over anything I wouldn't be comfortable.

It's a good thing I don't run a website in a connected area and have to make value judgments on such matters

 

[Cheekychap70]

That is exactly what I'm trying to say. No real swinger should ever go to a club thinking they are going to get laid. It's totally the wrong mindset. Go and chat and enjoy yourself socially and if anything comes of that it's a bonus.

Such as?
Guaranteed sex?
It's no good stating "it should be much more" without at least an idea of how..
XxxBibaxxX

This is my own personal outlook on how I wish to conduct myself at a swinging club. I know it's not for everyone but I enjoy myself and that what counts.
On the subject of Escorts, I have seen a few at Chams but to their credit have never witnessed any touting for business. I still wouldn't engage in them though if I was fully in the know.

 

[Pearls]

Nooooooooo!

What about her overseas website and all the twitter crap?
Him?

Not from there, I have my ways of finding out

 

[Pearls]

It depends on two things:

* What are reasonable costs?
* Does everyone understand fully what will happen?

If those two things are satisfied, I'd say fill your boots. If there's a question mark over anything I wouldn't be comfortable.

It's a good thing I don't run a website in a connected area and have to make value judgments on such matters

if people are aware then fine but innocent gents thinking they are meeting genuine swingers.. Not the way to do it x

 

[Deleted member 3657]

I'm not in favour. This is a swinging site not a knocking shop. If anyone feels the need to contact an escort then I guess there are plenty of opportunities on the internet already. Google is a magical tool.

from a personal point of view i have never used an escort and i never intend too either and i have never visited any ladies of the night that hang around on street corners either so the answer for me would b no i dont wanna see escorts on here

Guys give us a reasoned argument rather than a no or an assumption. Whilst we are on assumptions this goes for men as well as women and in fact couples.
If they are here to be a part of the community and to make new friends rather than touting for business then you wouldn't accept them? How do you know what we all do for a living if we don't tell you? Just because they are open of what they do for a living why should they be exiled from here? Like I said, as long it's not for adverising then what's the problem? Who are you, we, to judge what they do? Don't like them personally then don't talk to them. You chat to me yet my job is contentious. I've helped to train, plan and instigate situations where the purpose and result was men getting killed. Should I be kicked off because of my chosen profession?

 

[meet_the_fockers]

Guys give us a reasoned argument rather than a no or an assumption. Whilst we are on assumptions this goes for men as well as women and in fact couples.
If they are here to be a part of the community and to make new friends rather than touting for business then you wouldn't except them? How do you know what we all do for a living if we don't tell you? Just because they are open of what they do for a living why should they be exiled from here? Like I said, as long it's not for adverising then what's the problem? Who are you, we, to judge what they do? Don't like them personally then don't talk to them. You chat to me yet my job is contentious. I've helped to train, plan and instigate situations where the purpose and result was men getting killed. Should I be kicked off because of my chosen profession?

Argument on here?! Duckie.
We debate. X

 

[Deleted member 3657]

Argument on here?! Duckie.
We debate. X

Same difference.

 

[DiamondJoe]

Argument on here?! Duckie.
We debate. X

No we don't

 

[Deleted member 3657]

Argument on here?! Duckie.
We debate. X

Same difference.

Splitting hairs MTF. An argument is a reason or set of reasons given in support of an idea, action or theory.

 

[meet_the_fockers]

Splitting hairs MTF. An argument is a reason or set of reasons given in support of an idea, action or theory.

A debate is a discussion, with both sides taking an even, part.
An argument is a discussion, where one is hoping to be a winner. x

 

[Deleted member 3657]

Splitting hairs again.

 

[meet_the_fockers]

Splitting hairs again.

Not at all this is my mind set, on a debate and an argument ... x

 

[Deleted member 3657]

And that was mine. Who's wrong?