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how can this be acceptable and why do the Troys wonder why nobody votes for them north of the border.
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how can this be acceptable and why do the Troys wonder why nobody votes for them north of the border.
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Max-the-3rd
Yip, this was her maiden speech which she did apologise for sort off, she is the Mp for Cambridgeshire south I believe.
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Well this was back in June 2015 and she is still there. And the Tories still ask why nobody north of the border votes for them.
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I understand the heat that this clip produces. But, if I may. She stated a fact from history, Scots were transported as slaves by Cromwell's decree, and the West Lothian question posed by Tam Dalyell and given the phrase by Enoch Powell in 1977 is a serious question. The point for me is not a lame joke about Scottish people, but a lame joke about a serious point of issue.
Scottish people should surely rise above such humour, lame as it was, as I have heard worse lame jokes posed by Scottish Nationalists.
So do the people of Ireland Scotland and Wales have the right to make decisions about English Policies and Legislation when we have no say in theirs?
I ask that as a democrat, not as a nationalist, so please don't accuse me of racism.
Scottish people should surely rise above such humour, lame as it was, as I have heard worse lame jokes posed by Scottish Nationalists.
So do the people of Ireland Scotland and Wales have the right to make decisions about English Policies and Legislation when we have no say in theirs?
I ask that as a democrat, not as a nationalist, so please don't accuse me of racism.
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It dose not really mater what her point is or is not and if the Lothian question is a good one or not so good. I think it is quite obvious that to bring up history of the English defeating the Scottish in then killing thousands as they marched then south to be put into slavery is not the kind of thing a responsible Mp should be raising in parliament.
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Yeah, if you can't laugh at massacre and slavery, what can you laugh about, eh?
Unfortunately the whole point of Parliament is that this type of debate is allowed, expected, and leads to light not heat on a particular topic
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That is not debate, that was her opening speech to parliament. A unprovoked and unnecessary dig at Scotland which she was made to apologist for. Please don't try and defend her.
I am not defending her, but she has a legal prerogative to make such comments and the fact she apologised means she didn't think her speech through properly. She didn't in law have to apologise.
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why dose she have a legal right or privilege to make such comments? and you clearly are defending her. lol.
This is the forum for debates and discussions, as long as no flaming occurs, then it's fine.
What I will say however, is I don't see where @ashfieldguy is defending her actions aside from the initial first post.
As long as the debate remains healthy, then heated discussion is allowed - when flaming etc occurs then that's the time to draw the line of course.
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OK then @ashfieldguy just to clarify, are you arguing the she has a right to bring up the west Lothian question in her maiden speech? if yes then there is no argument as i agree with you she has a right to bring it up and as a Scottish man I would agree with you. if Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have a say in English politics then the English should be allowed a say in ours as long as we are part of the United Kingdom, however if you are say she has a legal right to bring up ancient history of the Scottish being starved, marched to death and sold to slavery in a mocking manor then I will have to disagree with you. It is more then foolish and anyone who thinks this is a acceptable thing to do should not be allowed anywhere near our modern houses of Parliament. Let face it, if as you say she cant think through your maiden speech correctly, maybe she should not be there.
