Mcdonald’s Boss

[Pearls]

Sacked for having an affair with one of his workers.

So listening to Jeremy vine over lunch like we do every day and this pops up.

Mr A says to me, he thinks it’s right he got sacked and shouldn’t be fraternising with the staff.

Me. But babe you were my boss and you shagged me had an affair and got married

So was he right to get sacked?
Not that I give a hoot tbh but it made me laugh

 

[Therapon]

It appears a bit harsh but as I understand it he broke the companies rules. As a senior manager he can't be seen to be allowed to break those rules and get away with it ....... or the rules need amending.

 

[Pearls]

It appears a bit harsh but as I understand it he broke the companies rules. As a senior manager he can't be seen to be allowed to break those rules and get away with it ....... or the rules need amending.

Isn’t the rules about work though? I dunno just wondering

 

[fincon]

So was he right to get sacked?

Legally? If he breached the internal rules of the company, don’t know if he should have been sacked, but absolutely he should face disciplinary consequences.

Morally? Yep. On this, I’m afraid I’m a ‘no tolerance’ fella. For all the ‘it was consensual’ it can never been deemed consensual because of the disparity in the power dynamic. The other person (and I’ve known it same sex as well) is junior to the senior person. Outsiders can’t possibly know whether the other person truly believed it was consensual or whether they felt they had to sleep with the boss in order to keep their job. No one can know that. And so the only way is ‘no sexual relationship between v senior staff and more junior staff.’

As I’ve mentioned before, I was once a financial director. Not a huge company; about 50 staff, £16m turnover a year.

I was asked what it was like, going from financial controller (the number 2 job in the finance dept) to the financial director’s job, the number 2 job in the company, under chief exec.

I said two major differences:
1/ timescales (now responsible for making sure the company was still around in two years, say)
2/ every woman in the company was now off-limits. Because there wasn’t a single one I didn’t outrank.

(And though I never had an issue with one of my junior staff seeing another person in the company at the same level, I had to know about it, so - for example - I could ensure one didn’t approve the others’ expenses.)

Yeah, it’s never a good idea. And the few times it works out fine are pebbles on a mountainside compared to the avalanche of examples when it’s a disaster, either at the time, or when it ends.

 

[Pearls]

Legally? If he breached the internal rules of the company, don’t know if he should have been sacked, but absolutely he should face disciplinary consequences.

Morally? Yep. On this, I’m afraid I’m a ‘no tolerance’ fella. For all the ‘it was consensual’ it can never been deemed consensual because of the disparity in the power dynamic. The other person (and I’ve known it same sex as well) is junior to the senior person. Outsiders can’t possibly know whether the other person truly believed it was consensual or whether they felt they had to sleep with the boss in order to keep their job. No one can know that. And so the only way is ‘no sexual relationship between v senior staff and more junior staff.’

As I’ve mentioned before, I was once a financial director. Not a huge company; about 50 staff, £16m turnover a year.

I was asked what it was like, going from financial controller (the number 2 job in the finance dept) to the financial director’s job, the number 2 job in the company, under chief exec.

I said two major differences:
1/ timescales (now responsible for making sure the company was still around in two years, say)
2/ every woman in the company was now off-limits. Because there wasn’t a single one I didn’t outrank.

(And though I never had an issue with one of my junior staff seeing another person in the company at the same level, I had to know about it, so - for example - I could ensure one didn’t approve the others’ expenses.)

Yeah, it’s never a good idea. And the few times it works out fine are pebbles on a mountainside compared to the avalanche of examples when it’s a disaster, either at the time, or when it ends.

You never let me down Mr F and for the record Mr A was a head chef and I was his little pot scrubber. He didn’t get the sack though

 

[fincon]

You never let me down Mr F and for the record Mr A was a head chef and I was his little pot scrubber. He didn’t get the sack though

The question was asked; you kind of knew what I was gonna say already, didn’t you? heh.

But yeah, as I said - sure, sometimes it works out fine, sometimes it’s entirely consensual. Sadly, too man times it doesn’t work out fine, and causes huge problems, legally and in how the company operates.

For a CEO? Yeah, it’s unforgivable.

(And yes, before anyone else asks, I was never aware of anyone even faintly interested in me while I was FD, but... given my well-known very strong views on the subject inside the company, no one would have been stupid enough to have let me know, anyway. The junior staff issue actually happened though; a lass started seeing a young lad inside the production department. She told me, asked me to keep it quiet. I wished her luck, but immediately arranged for his shoot expenses to be checked by someone else.)

 

[Stew]

The mistake wasn’t the affair ! The mistake was getting caught !!

 

[DandDforfun]

The mistake wasn’t the affair ! The mistake was getting caught !!

Yep, definitely a major problem with an affair!