The Art Of Conversation...

[Lips_Pearls]

Is not lost, it's behind the TV. Now the smartphone.
Years ago it was behind the TV - ugh man I hate TV.. always have, sorry to say. Just not a telly person.
But now it's the smartphone.
Either way, why are we so easily distracted from real life into a world of virtual reality and fantasy when all we have is right near us in the first place?
Are we losing the 'art' to communicate with one another? x

 

[Deleted member 6485]

Would it be wrong to answer on my smartphone?
I had this conversation with my sister Thursday. 4 of us sat in a room...each with phone in hand and not one person talking! Its bad reallyx

 

[Lips_Pearls]

Would it be wrong to answer on my smartphone?
I had this conversation with my sister Thursday. 4 of us sat in a room...each with phone in hand and not one person talking! Its bad reallyx

Yeah... that ^^
Sad days aye?
Shame. It's a shame that it's now about the phone and what you can get.
IMHO we're losing about us. Who we are. Talking, not sending pics on Insta etc. It's still there, of course it is, but we're changing as a society. x

 

[fincon]

I spent years working in tv, on the production side, not in front of the camera (no one would be that crazy), so I may be biased in favour of tv. (In favour of the medium, I mean; there’s plenty of tv genres I can’t stand.)

As for losing the art, the skills, ofcommunication, couldn’t disagree more. It’s just another form of communication, a different type of communication, is all.

And, speaking personally, I find online communication and the apps that allow it much easier, and far more pleasurable on the whole, than calling people on the phone, or meeting people unless it’s from overt choice to meet.

 

[Deleted member 6485]

we're changing as a society. x

For the worse imho x

 

[Vanezza]

Isn't it a bit of an odd thing to ask on a platform that wasn't readily available just twenty years ago?
I could reply to you on my PC, my phone or even my tv so it's all just communication. The less people flapping lips and telling me lies the better to be perfectly honest.
I am a rather unsociable sort though, I don't really like people so if I have to talk I would go for modern media over having to chat

N xxx

 

[Charlia]

... I mean if I have to talk to someone I can. I just prefer everyone leaves me alone lmao

 

[Therapon]

Are we losing the 'art' to communicate with one another? x

Yes and No.

Yes when talking to people who then start using their phone to check how their friends are getting along painting their nails which, lets face it is of vital importance.

No because a quick message to ask how someone is getting along helps you keep in touch.

Communication is a two way process and using devices to keep in touch with people who are too far away to actual see them everyday is a useful way to check how they are. What annoys me is when I'm with someone, having a chat and they insist on using their phones every minute or two to check on thier other electronic chats. Sorry it's feckin ignorant when people do this especially if they then ask "what did you say". So before I head off into full rant mode I'd say we aren't loosing the art but that the art is changing and as a society we are unsure of the correct etiquette to use.

 

[Looby&Lew]

... I mean if I have to talk to someone I can. I just prefer everyone leaves me alone lmao

You sound so like our daughter who in a Bridezilla moment told me the week before last that she didn't need to be having unnecessary conversations with people....

 

[Looby&Lew]

You sound so like our daughter who in a Bridezilla moment told me the week before last that she didn't need to be having unnecessary conversations with people....

I nearly suggested a crystal ball may provide the answers to he questions in that case xx

 

[fincon]

I had this conversation with my sister Thursday. 4 of us sat in a room...each with phone in hand and not one person talking!

I’m reminded of a convention that my lad and his friends had a while back. They didn’t come up with it but adopted it from friends of theirs.

If they went out for drinks, or dinner, all phones had to be face down on the table in front of them. Everyone was allowed one emergency number/ringtone but other than that, if the phone rang, or bleeped or made a noise in any way and you answered it… the next three rounds were on you. If it was a crowd at dinner… you paid ½ of the whole bill.

Cut down the ‘always looking at the phone’ to almost nothing, apparently.

 

[Charlia]

It is worth to point out that for some people, the fiddling with their phone, actually helps them converse. Especially anyone with autistic traits. The output of playing on their phones, helps them absorb the input conversation. It's called stimming

 

[Vanezza]

I think the mobile phone and all its widley didleys you have on them has killed the art of conversation but I think social media is worse here is an example: I go in to talk to my cousin every evening when he comes upstairs and not all the time but most of the time he has his head stuck in his phone on facebook yet I am there to chat too, I do find it quite irritating at times and a little rude. Odd times I may be finishing something I was doing on my phone but if my cousin is chatting or Neil is in the same room I stop it I would rather talk to them.


Vxxx

 

[fincon]

I think the mobile phone and all its widley didleys you have on them has killed the art of conversation but I think social media is worse here is an example: I go in to talk to my cousin every evening when he comes upstairs and not all the time but most of the time he has his head stuck in his phone on facebook yet I am there to chat too, I do find it quite irritating at times and a little rude. Odd times I may be finishing something I was doing on my phone but if my cousin is chatting or Neil is in the same room I stop it I would rather talk to them.


Vxxx

Whereas I’m delighted at the advent of social media - for all its faults - and genuinely wish it had been around ‘back in the day’. It’s enabled me to keep up with what friends and acquaintances are up to, both here and abroad, and vice versa, without either them or me actually having to be in the same room. I get as much or as little interaction as I want.

 

[Lips_Pearls]

Isn't it a bit of an odd thing to ask on a platform that wasn't readily available just twenty years ago?
I could reply to you on my PC, my phone or even my tv so it's all just communication. The less people flapping lips and telling me lies the better to be perfectly honest.
I am a rather unsociable sort though, I don't really like people so if I have to talk I would go for modern media over having to chat

N xxx

Yeah just to clarify, I mean in actual real life when with company or with people such as friends, family etc. x

Interesting posts. Of course, the Internet and Web have made so many things possible. We now can talk in real time to family in other parts of the world such as America or down under etc can't we.
It's brought us some fantastic things to our lives, but also has brought some things not so good.
We drive past bus stops and the majority of people are faced downwards. Everywhere you look, people have bowed heads as they're on their phones.
Worst case we saw was a few days' back where we're in the car picking up our youngest from a charity event. We stopped at traffic lights on our way home and the car next to us was full, about 5 people in it, and the entire family - inc the driver, were face down on their devices.....

 

[Antogs]

Well, as you may tell by the length of some of my posts I prefer to talk rather than text or whatever.
The reason for this is simple.
I always like to give as much detail when replying to someone or trying to get a point across so that I can avoid, as much as possible, my posts/texts or whatever being misinterpreted or coming across in the wrong way.
There have been times when I've tried to be concise and ended up inadvertently offending someone or they've totally missed the point I was trying to make.
There have been several occasions when women I have been chatting to on ****** or ****** etc. have actually told me off because, according to them, my posts have been too long. They say they get bored waiting for my reply (if that isn't a sign of the modern culture of "I want it NOW" I don't know what is.
If I'm asked a question I like to try to give a full answer. One classic example was when a woman asked me to explain what I meant by High Protocol position training and grew impatient as I failed to convey the complexities involved in less than 10 words

It''s very easy to get into trouble when trying to put something into the written word quickly and concisely. Especially if it's a subject that is controversial and you have a long, painful and complicated background story that led to you having that current view and you are stressed out. It can easily lead you to miss out a lot of reasoning and using inappropriate words to try and make a point that is then lost anyway because people, quite rightly, get offended.
Not that that would ever happen to me of course

I know that, at least in my case, I find it far easier and for me to present a reasonable, more cogent argument in five minutes of chatting to someone (and of course you can immediately respond to any concerns raised before things get out of hand) than any number of pages written dialogue.

S, I agree with @Lips_Pearls in that I prefer talking to texting/posting etc

I've done it again, haven't I? Droned on and bored everyone by writing so much!!
Point proven LOL

Antogs xx

 

[Lips_Pearls]

Well, as you may tell by the length of some of my posts I prefer to talk rather than text or whatever.
The reason for this is simple.
I always like to give as much detail when replying to someone or trying to get a point across so that I can avoid, as much as possible, my posts/texts or whatever being misinterpreted or coming across in the wrong way.
There have been times when I've tried to be concise and ended up inadvertently offending someone or they've totally missed the point I was trying to make.
There have been several occasions when women I have been chatting to on ****** or ****** etc. have actually told me off because, according to them, my posts have been too long. They say they get bored waiting for my reply (if that isn't a sign of the modern culture of "I want it NOW" I don't know what is.
If I'm asked a question I like to try to give a full answer. One classic example was when a woman asked me to explain what I meant by High Protocol position training and grew impatient as I failed to convey the complexities involved in less than 10 words

It''s very easy to get into trouble when trying to put something into the written word quickly and concisely. Especially if it's a subject that is controversial and you have a long, painful and complicated background story that led to you having that current view and you are stressed out. It can easily lead you to miss out a lot of reasoning and using inappropriate words to try and make a point that is then lost anyway because people, quite rightly, get offended.
Not that that would ever happen to me of course

I know that, at least in my case, I find it far easier and for me to present a reasonable, more cogent argument in five minutes of chatting to someone (and of course you can immediately respond to any concerns raised before things get out of hand) than any number of pages written dialogue.

S, I agree with @Lips_Pearls in that I prefer talking to texting/posting etc

I've done it again, haven't I? Droned on and bored everyone by writing so much!!
Point proven LOL

Antogs xx

Yep. Superb post.

 

[Lips_Pearls]

Either way, why are we so easily distracted from real life into a world of virtual reality and fantasy when all we have is right near us in the first place?
Are we losing the 'art' to communicate with one another? x

Sneaky bump x