Karl Andree, 74 - 350 lashes in Saudi

[Admin]

Okay guys,
May be a sensitive topic, but what do you feel about Karl Andree, who's 74 and facing 350 lashes in public - in Saudi Arabia, for being caught with 6 bottles of homemade wine in his car?

Initially after being caught - he was sentenced to a year in prison but has served 14 months, the two extra months because the authorities are unsure what to do with him.

He is 74 years of age, has worked there for 25 years (on oil) and sadly his wife had travelled home as she is extremely poorly (dying even?) from Alzheimer's.
He's survived and fought off cancer 3 times, and has asthma.

However, he broke a law in a strict country.. But does that make the punishment right?
Usually such public lashings, last only to about 10-15 lashings before a doctor is called as they deal it so angrily and brutally.
Will this man even survive 350!?

Your thoughts?

 

[Pearls]

It is a strict country and he of all people knew what he was doing but...I think he has suffered enough and second at his age he is unlikely to survive this punishment, I have just heard that after only 10 lashes of this force a healthy man will be in horrific pain and a doctor would be called, how in gods name is a man of this age and with illness get through this ordeal?

 

[riccarda]

Tend to be a when in Rome type person but i have worked in Saudi and they are living in the middle ages and we all politely smile and let them carry on with it

Everyone else we are on screaming human rights oh but they don't have oil do they

 

[Admin]

Tend to be a when in Rome type person but i have worked in Saudi and they are living in the middle ages and we all politely smile and let them carry on with it

Everyone else we are on screaming human rights oh but they don't have oil do they

My words to Pearls too.. When in Rome.
They are living in the middle ages, and it's worrying..
Indeed, oil money and greed.

Does crime warrant the punishment though?

 

[Therapon]

Does crime warrant the punishment though?

Difficult one to answer as we have different views in the UK but it's their law whether we agree or not and surely everyone knows you do not take alcohol into SA. The other question is, as with any newpaper headline, just what is the truth behind that headline?

 

[riccarda]

My words to Pearls too.. When in Rome.
They are living in the middle ages, and it's worrying..
Indeed, oil money and greed.

Does crime warrant the punishment though?

Simple answer no

 

[riccarda]

Looks like the Saudi Arabia might have backed down on this

 

[Admin]

Ahh really? Well it's hardly surprising really, given the circumstances. We put a LOT of money in their pockets, and weaponry - as they do ours. (money) hmm politics.

 

[Bonker]

Okay guys,
May be a sensitive topic, but what do you feel about Karl Andree, who's 74 and facing 350 lashes in public - in Saudi Arabia, for being caught with 6 bottles of homemade wine in his car?

Initially after being caught - he was sentenced to a year in prison but has served 14 months, the two extra months because the authorities are unsure what to do with him.

He is 74 years of age, has worked there for 25 years (on oil) and sadly his wife had travelled home as she is extremely poorly (dying even?) from Alzheimer's.
He's survived and fought off cancer 3 times, and has asthma.

However, he broke a law in a strict country.. But does that make the punishment right?
Usually such public lashings, last only to about 10-15 lashings before a doctor is called as they deal it so angrily and brutally.
Will this man even survive 350!?

Your thoughts?

I spent some run out there in the same field, I don't drink at all but witnessed public lashings for similar 'crimes' and worse.......no two ways about it, you Horta keep your wits about you

 

[Bonker]

I spent some run out there in the same field, I don't drink at all but witnessed public lashings for similar 'crimes' and worse.......no two ways about it, you Horta keep your wits about you

Idiot !!!! 'I've spent some time out there...'
Sorry detest bad grammar

 

[Lace]

His sentence was only 12 months prison and not 12 months prison and 350 lashes, no justice x

 

[Pearls]

His sentence was only 12 months prison and not 12 months prison and 350 lashes, no justice x

Thats a good point xx

 

[Therapon]

Interesting, have the Saudi's backed off or were the reports wrong?

Saudi officials say they are baffled by the headlines suggesting that an elderly Briton, Karl Andree, may face flogging for possessing alcohol. They say that was never even a possibility because of his age and ill health.

 

[Admin]

Damn press for you again! I have seen with my own eyes how they can manipulate things... Bastids.

 

[Therapon]

Bastids.

And this from someone who dislikes bad grammer

 

[Pearls]

And this from someone who dislikes bad grammer

Its shocking tut tut xx

 

[Therapon]

I know, I know, you just cannot get the staff these days

 

[Pearls]

I know, I know, you just cannot get the staff these days

He better watch him self here....

 

[Therapon]

He better watch him self here....

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