That First Meet... Who's Genuine?

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So, here you are, about to dip your toe in the water for the first time, you have signed up to a swinging site, had a look around, and have decided "Yep, this is for me/us... lets see who wants to meet".
But beware, for as soon as you take the plunge, predators will start circling, the unwary can get sucked in to a spiral of explicit mail tennis, pic swaps and all manner of chicanery, and then, just as you think "Yes, we are going to meet!"... it all falls apart!

After around 10 years of swinging and related foolishness, and listening to all the tales of woe from loads of people, we realised that, actually, we were doing ok compared to most, in fact, in 10 years, we have NEVER been stood up, or let down... pretty impressive eh! (There is probably a large helping of luck involved too lol).

But, fear not, with a few simple pointers, and some hints on what to look out for, you will soon be able to sort the wheat from the chaff and find people on your wavelength that want to bump uglies with you lol!
(Disclaimer...sthwalescpl make no promises about you actually getting meets after following this advice, after all, your momma might say you are "beautiful"... but then, she has to, it's in the job description!)
So, how do you avoid being "ghosted" , "breadcrumbed" or having endless convo's with "timewasters"?
Simple... get BRUTAL!!!
No, hey, careful, stop swinging that battle-axe around, I didn't mean like that mun... put it down... that's it, deep breaths now... calm, calm!
I meant... treat EVERY approach from a someone as being FAKE, until they prove otherwise. See... brutal! You can probably believe a profile if it has a list of verifications a mile long... but always check those out too.
Sure, there are many genuine folk out there, and when you start factoring in work, family, hobbies, illness, and everything else that makes up "real life", then it can be difficult to match your diaries and get together at a mutually beneficial time, however, there are also those who, for their own personal reasons, will probably never meet, and will string you along until they get what they want, before dropping you.
These include...
People who claim to be single, but are in fact married.
People who just want access to your private pics (why, when there is tons of free porn on the 'net?)
People who aren't who their profile says they are (example being that 22 year old ex-Playboy bunny brewery heiress that keeps begging you to "tell me what you would like to do to me"... spoiler alert, "she's" actually a hairy-arsed trucker called Dave who just gets his jollies out of reading the porn mails you send him.)
People who get off on "the thrill of the chase".
People who, whilst they love the idea of being a swinger, cant actually go that final yard and meet.
People who are "butterflys"... they actually go to socials, clubs, even parties, and lounge around in sexy undies (even the ladies), they love the idea of "being seen in the scene", they talk the talk, but they never actually swing.
I should also add, I use the word "fake" in describing some profiles, when they could actually be what they claim they are i.e. a single male, but the reason I say fake is that, for whatever reason, they wont meet... I suppose the full title should be "fake swinger".

And so on... daunting, isn't it?
But it shouldn't be, because, once you have an idea about how to conduct a response to a "first contact", and you are aware of what to look out for, thinning the herd and chopping out the deadwood should be easier... no, for goodness sake... I said, put down the axe.. yes, I know I said "chopping", but it's meto… it's metafo..it's meterpo… ah balls its a flouncy poncy way of making a point.

So... picture the scene.
You get a mail (alright, calm down, it does happen you know!)
First...read it (duh, obvious, right?)… how does it "feel"?
Does it go straight for the throat with graphic sexual terms and a description of what he/she/they (I'll use "they" from now on for tidiness) wants to do to you? Yes? Probably fake. That's not foolproof, but it is a heavy indicator, although some genuine swingers do like to use that approach.
But, balance what is written with their profile, if they claim to be a single young fem, then it's unlikely, use your best judgement.
Is it a crude one-liner... "hi, wanna fuck?"..."wanna suk (sic) my cock?" that sort of thing? Again, if its supposed to be from a young single fem, it's probably fake!
Use what they have written to get a feel, do they sound like they might be fun, interesting playmates who will make an effort? Does what they write indicate that they have read your profile, and match what you want. AND... something most miss, do YOU match what THEY want on their profile? If it's from a couple as an example, and you are a bi lady, does it say that the fem is bi or curious, or looking to have some fem on fem play?
Having balanced up what they have mailed, and what you and they are looking for, you find that, so far, things are looking good.
So, now you nail them down to a time and place, buy condoms and get it on baby!!! Right?
Erm….no.
Sure, it could go that way, and you might have a great first experience... but chances are it wont.
Take time, get to know them... I'm not talking about mailing back and fore for weeks, finding out their starsigns, what their first pets name was, what they do for a job etc.
Swap a few mails, keep it flirty but clean(ish), establish any ground rules, and use this time to get a better "feel" for them... anyone who is a dreamer, or who wants something other than a real genuine meet, like pics or X-rated chat, will get bored quickly, or try to move the convo on to something more "pervy".
Remember, real swingers are perverts too, I have been known to use some fruity language sometimes when mailing people, but only after a few mails when the convo has turned that way.

Ok, so, you are getting on, things so far look promising. Everyone seems to be singing off the same hymn sheet.
Time to test the water, so to speak.
Now, at this point, you have choices... are you the kind of folks who want a social meet first, to gauge compatibility?
Or, having matched up with profiles and mails, do you want to meet up and get all sweaty? Another option is, a social meet with the option to move on to a more intimate meet.
 
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Whatever you choose, its now time to do a final check on them.
As before, if it's a profile with an armload of veries, you can probably assume that they are genuine, although genuine folks do stand people up too, so you pays your money, and you takes your chances!
If you have the option, you could cam with them (****** or similar), or chat on the phone.
We do this if we are in any doubt that it's a real couple or fem (no-one fakes being a single guy lol!), and their response will tell you a lot about their intentions.
Sure, some don't like to cam or give out their number, so I give them the option of calling me and withholding their number, meaning there is no risk to them. I also explain it won't be a "heavy breathing" type call, just a brief "hi, hello" to establish that there is a fem the other end, and vice versa on ours. But, I also point out, that without some way to prove they are genuine, there is no way we are getting all glammed up, shaved and plucked, to travel to what could be a big "no show" disappointment.
The ball is in their court.
You will be amazed at some of the excuses that come up. With couples, you will hear "she's at work/asleep/visiting relatives/in the kitchen/busy/painting the Humber bridge/shopping"... whilst any of them could be true, if it keeps happening then the translation is simple..."I'm a single guy (or part of a couple on here without her knowledge) and I'm just looking to have a tug whilst looking at your pics/mails".
Single fems who refuse are binned...sure, it's harsh, but if they refuse to prove they are genuine (we have even just asked for a specific type of pic, perhaps touching their nose, something non-nude or sexual) then you have to ask yourself... why?
They may try to keep you interested by dropping in a pic or message now and then, leading you on with the hope of a meet (breadcrumbing), but having no intention... so, cut them loose, move on to someone more deserving of your time. Those who are "real" (i.e. actual single fems, cpls, or guys) can also do this, motives are unclear but perhaps they like the attention, (thrill of the chase).

So, having established that they are "genuine", now comes that last big step, organising a meet.
Here, again, you have options.
Our BIG RULE here is to swap numbers, should anything come up last minute you can text or call to let them know, and they can do the same for you too. You are planning on being pretty intimate with them soon, swapping numbers now shouldn't be an issue... if you cant trust me with your number, there is no way I'm trusting you to stick any body part into Jayne!
One way to avoid having a wasted journey is to arrange to meet them at a swinger-related event (social, party, club), that way if they let you down, it's no big loss, you will have a great evening anyway.
Some aren't keen, maybe they are nervous, and would prefer a less crowded option, just you and them, so getting a "no" on going to an event isn't a failure.
We plan ahead, whilst "last minute.com" meets can be fun, "real life" is a pain, and can screw up things, so having a period of time to make sure everything goes well is helpful.
You need to discuss the location of your social/sweaty wrestle/mix of both, who will host, or book the hotel, decide who's paying for what (if meals and drinks are involved, maybe even the hotel room) we split everything, unless we are staying over in the hotel, then we cough up for that.
During this time, stay in contact, the "getting to know you" stuff is always good, it helps things on a meet go a lot smoother, but be aware of being "ghosted"... someone will be swapping messages, but as the day and time get closer, the messages tail off, until on the day, you cant raise them, mails go unread, texts ignored, calls unanswered. If this happens, don't go along thinking "they are just busy, they will be there"... they won't! A basic mail or text sent in the morning saying "Still ok for later?" is all it takes... no reply means we get take-out, wine, and hit Sky for a film rather than prepping for a meet that isn't going to happen.

Finally.…(ok, who said "thank fuck for that"? come on, one of you at the back said it, own up!) you head off, the nerves are jangling, the stomach is flipping, you have a spring in your step, your mind is full of, "what ifs?"... but relax (I know, easy for me to say... but.. big reveal, we still get nervous now!) they will be feeling the same way. Just go with the flow, resist the temptation to send texts informing them of every step of your journey to the meet, enjoy yourselves, take some "in action" pics (for me, not you... hey, I told you I was a pervert!) and above all, make some new friends, friends you can trust, friends you can meet again and again, friends you can introduce us to so we can get our jiggy on!
And.... afterwards...bask in that warm glow you get after some vigorous sexual shenanigans, and unless time is a factor (kids coming home from school, parole officer visiting, that kind of thing) then don't rush off, nothing more off-putting than playmates who, after the deed is done, seem in a rush to get the hell away from us lol!

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About the Author.
Mr. sthwalescpl is a noted scholar, scientist and humanitarian, having picked up many awards for his charitable work with those less fortunate (the English, amongst others). He also is the worlds foremost proponent and practitioner of inter-vaginal massage using the "dickusinsideher" technique. Workshops are held regularly, ask for details.
He currently holds 10 world records, the foremost of which is the notable "Worlds Greatest Liar" title.
 
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There are some good points which I have to say I have experienced recently.... :tiphat:
Do wonder why they were so long winded but there again your Welsh why say something in a few words when you can write a novel :rofl: oh and not PV’d either :hmm:
 
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There are some good points which I have to say I have experienced recently.... :tiphat:
Do wonder why they were so long winded but there again your Welsh why say something in a few words when you can write a novel :rofl: oh and not PV’d either :hmm:


Ref the PV comment.
I'm guessing that's a bit of a dig at whether or not we are genuine?

Can you tell me what PV would prove?
Would it prove we would turn up for a meet?
Doubt it.
Would it prove that its us in the pics?
Nope, even a total tech failure like me could snatch a pic of t'webby, and fake it enough to pass.
Would it prove that we are even a couple... again, nope.
PV is one tool available to site users to help them, there are others.
If you are worried about our "bona fides".. don't let it bother you, it doesn't bother us lol.:p
 
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Ref the PV comment.
I'm guessing that's a bit of a dig at whether or not we are genuine?

Can you tell me what PV would prove?
Would it prove we would turn up for a meet?
Doubt it.
Would it prove that its us in the pics?
Nope, even a total tech failure like me could snatch a pic of t'webby, and fake it enough to pass.
Would it prove that we are even a couple... again, nope.
PV is one tool available to site users to help them, there are others.
If you are worried about our "bona fides".. don't let it bother you, it doesn't bother us lol.:p
Doesn’t bother me in the slightest if your genuine or just a keyboard warrior I believe that’s the term they use :rofl:
So you can fake a PV to fool @Admin :hmm: .... that would be interesting to see if it works .... :D
 

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Doesn’t bother me in the slightest if your genuine or just a keyboard warrior I believe that’s the term they use :rofl:
So you can fake a PV to fool @Admin :hmm: .... that would be interesting to see if it works .... :D
Without derailing the thread - it would have to be an extremely well faked PV, with all the correct signatures, in order to pass as a genuine photo verification. (y)
 
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Doesn’t bother me in the slightest if your genuine or just a keyboard warrior I believe that’s the term they use :rofl:
So you can fake a PV to fool @Admin :hmm: .... that would be interesting to see if it works .... :D

Meh, when you hit over 200 veries (that's what we have on another site), then you can crow lol.