Article 50

[Moonracer]

It's a hard one to debate really cause we open our arms to leguall entry but to jump the wall I disagree cause half of them jumping in have left there family's behind and that's something I'd never consider .i do understand

 

[Max-the-3rd]

It's a hard one to debate really cause we open our arms to leguall entry but to jump the wall I disagree cause half of them jumping in have left there family's behind and that's something I'd never consider .i do understand

Or there family has been killed.

 

[Moonracer]

If my family died there then I'm sorry I'd have to die there with em

 

[Max-the-3rd]

You can not make judgments on people you don't know! Maybe thay are here to work illegally to send money home to there families, if there are fine by me. I want to help them not give them more shit than they already have to deal with. They are small fry. Bigger picture, big rip off companies are the issue. Don't try and fuck over and knock someone worse off than yourself. If anything you have more in common with them than not.

 

[Pearls]

I do have an issue with immigration here, I have a sick dad, who at the moment is in hospital, he could be cared for at home but due to our GP practices being rammed and bursting at the seams, he can't, we need a district nurse weekly for bloods and wound dressing, it's simply not possible due to our NHS being so over stretched.
Only a couple of years ago I could phone my GP and have an appointment, now there isn't and you have at least a month wait, forget a doctor call out for emergencies. The list can go on.
I do understand immigration and watched this discussion but no one here can say, we are not bursting and sadly innocent people like my dad is simply left to get on with it...

 

[Max-the-3rd]

I do have an issue with immigration here, I have a sick dad, who at the moment is in hospital, he could be cared for at home but due to our GP practices being rammed and bursting at the seams, he can't, we need a district nurse weekly for bloods and wound dressing, it's simply not possible due to our NHS being so over stretched.
Only a couple of years ago I could phone my GP and have an appointment, now there isn't and you have at least a month wait, forget a doctor call out for emergencies. The list can go on.
I do understand immigration and watched this discussion but no one here can say, we are not bursting and sadly innocent people like my dad is simply left to get on with it...

so sorry to hear about your dad, this awful state we find the n.h.s in had a lot to do with population growth and a lot to do with the government on giving the funds needed in views to force privatization.

 

[Pearls]

so sorry to hear about your dad, this awful state we find the n.h.s in had a lot to do with population growth and a lot to do with the government on giving the funds needed in views to force privatization.

So do the government build more hospitals, fund more GPs, nurses? Something has to give... Why should my dad be stuck in a hospital bed rotting when technically he can come home with a care plan but it's simply not available. x

 

[Deleted member 1030]

So do the government build more hospitals, fund more GPs, nurses?

Yes, they bloody should. Immigration is not the cause of the NHS dying (of course, I agree that raised immigration does put an extra strain on it), it is the starvation of funds - through terrible cuts by this Tory government and through the insane PFI deals of the last Labour government. Our NHS is in the state it's in because it has been neglected by our own governments.

 

[Max-the-3rd]

So do the government build more hospitals, fund more GPs, nurses? Something has to give... Why should my dad be stuck in a hospital bed rotting when technically he can come home with a care plan but it's simply not available. x

Absolutely build more hospital or just fund the one we have properly. More g.ps with more assistance. And find the cash by taxing them whom we must not tax.xx

 

[Pearls]

Yes, they bloody should. Immigration is not the cause of the NHS dying (of course, I agree that raised immigration does put an extra strain on it), it is the starvation of funds - through terrible cuts by this Tory government and through the insane PFI deals of the last Labour government. Our NHS is in the state it's in because it has been neglected by our own governments.

Walk into my surgery and most people are interpretors sadly xx