Swinging Is No Longer The Swinging We Knew...

[Lips_Pearls]

So, it's Friday night. Am sat here chillin' as I always do, chair up, tunes on, locked in, enjoying and letting hair down (what little is left as am slowly becoming a balding bastard) after a mental week and taking five.
Something has hit me like the squid that hit that kayaker this week, in the face...
(here if you're that bored: Seal slaps kayaker in the face with an octopus – video )

The fact that swinging is no longer what some of us old timers, perceive it to be. A couples' game.
Now you may sit here and say "Oh shit that old swingles chestnut again" or think aye about time.. or even think - revelations..
But the fact is we see it and have seen it for so long it ain't true. (Grammarian or not - don't quote me now m'kay )

By this I mean...
We've written about swingles (I affectionately coined the phrase swingles, now every mofo uses it.. ) and have done the same about Unicorns (dare we say the name) and those poor old piles of us who are - you got it, couples....

Swinging is an age old thing. New trend too perhaps. But couples' swinging is not the new trend. The new trend is being filled. Stretched. Widened. Cuckold.
Or (worse still, if you ain't happy with your missus being stretched for ya btw) if you prefer, having your bestie lad, who is now aware of your lifestyle, now all of a sudden taking your OH out for a night of: fucking senseless, while you watch Top Gear, or God forbid, Nigella Does Omelettes on TV.
In the latter case, you're more fucked than what most realise.

So... the fact remains that what we're talking about is diversity and change.
POF brought quick app dating hookups. FLABS (yes FLABS as in fab.swingers) brought in fakes, scams, (s)cams girls, gays'a'plenty and anyone who will suck your cock as long as you were paying, but the odd exception of the odd #SwingerCouple
Tinder brought in swipe left, swipe right.
Fuck ME!!
You fucking swipe for someone now? Good? Not good? Fucking SWIPE?
REALLY!

Bollox to that.
Nah.

We have brought in videos, which on a time back 4 years (3 actually server time with videos) on a hosted server, were all so new... and that was rare..
Now they're two-a-penny.
Upppp a vid, set your bait (cost) jobeth doneth. You get your bucks. Everyone's a winner.! John gets to knock one out, you get your bucks. £££££'s
But when did swinging STOP becoming exactly that? Swinging?
Swinging, where sex happens between consenting couples who wish to share each other, with others?
It stopped the minute the 'Sex App' was born. Because you have been sold out.
WE have been sold out.

Ahhh Social Swinging. Too adult to be FaceBook, too Facebook to be a swingers' site.
Nope. You, YOU, make it what it is and what it (ultimately) what it can be!
It's not us, not the admins, not the mods, but YOU the users. You the members.
You can either make it a swipe left/right site, a forum for chit-chat, a members meeting place, a photo/video gallery, or all of the above.
We've seen so many, too many, couples' become disheartened because of this.
How many couples' have we seen here, join and become involved only to lose interest because no-one else has interest in them?
Why?
Because swinging as a couple is harder than ANY other type of swinging out there. Truth.
#Swingingainteasy
It's not. All four of you have to be attracted. It's not easy.
Else what do you do? Take one for the team?

Even in a 3sum / threesome scenario, there has to be mutual attraction!
So, we're faced with a dilemma, move with the times and cater for "Single swinging" (hookups) or true swinging (couples with swingles in the mix) - or ultimately neither and close altogether!

You are fed up with Catfish profiles, fake swinger profiles and fake swinger accounts.
You are fed up with timewasters. You are fed up with arseholes ruining it for everyone else.

Yet we see so few doing so little to protect what they see as their chosen lifestyle and protect it.

Swinging is not for all, it's for couples and swingles. Not for swipers.
Don't get dragged into it through tech and apps.
Love and enjoy swinging for what it is.

#swingers #swinging #saferswingingsite #swingingnotdating

We're not a dating site, we're a swinging site for swingers. Where swinging really matters, unless that is not current anymore.

Best
L&P xx

TLDR?
Swinging isn't working for you and you don't fit in or find anyone you connect with?
Then ask yourself;
Are you looking for a cheap hookup and one night stand, or swinging fun with couples, swingles, whatever you'd like to phrase it - but not swipers? x

 

[Tiger]

I agree with you! We the site members make it what it is!
I for one am in it for the long term, to build up friendships be social & to swing!

Tiger xx

 

[Looking4fun]

I love this site and am so happy I joined. I feel comfortable and trusting to be able to enjoy and explore my new lifestyle journey with the added bonus of making friends along the way xx

 

[MP386]

I love this site and am so happy I joined. I feel comfortable and trusting to be able to enjoy and explore my new lifestyle journey with the added bonus of making friends along the way xx

Good your happy to be here ...and I am sure your find everything you need on your voyage of exploration...xx

 

[Lips_Pearls]

I agree with you! We the site members make it what it is!
I for one am in it for the long term, to build up friendships be social & to swing!

Tiger xx

Agreed Tiggs. It’s down to members and heed my words bro, peeps need to sort it else it’s gone.
But yeah man, why can’t we talk to the people we’re going to have sex with! Sheesh.

I love this site and am so happy I joined. I feel comfortable and trusting to be able to enjoy and explore my new lifestyle journey with the added bonus of making friends along the way xx

Good and am glad you feel so comfortable and already have settled in. Good for you x

 

[Therapon]

So, it's Friday night. Am sat here chillin' as I always do, chair up, tunes on, locked in, enjoying and letting hair down (what little is left as am slowly becoming a balding bastard) after a mental week and taking five.
Something has hit me like the squid that hit that kayaker this week, in the face...
(here if you're that bored: Seal slaps kayaker in the face with an octopus – video )

The fact that swinging is no longer what some of us old timers, perceive it to be. A couples' game.
Now you may sit here and say "Oh shit that old swingles chestnut again" or think aye about time.. or even think - revelations..
But the fact is we see it and have seen it for so long it ain't true. (Grammarian or not - don't quote me now m'kay )

By this I mean...
We've written about swingles (I affectionately coined the phrase swingles, now every mofo uses it.. ) and have done the same about Unicorns (dare we say the name) and those poor old piles of us who are - you got it, couples....

Swinging is an age old thing. New trend too perhaps. But couples' swinging is not the new trend. The new trend is being filled. Stretched. Widened. Cuckold.
Or (worse still, if you ain't happy with your missus being stretched for ya btw) if you prefer, having your bestie lad, who is now aware of your lifestyle, now all of a sudden taking your OH out for a night of: fucking senseless, while you watch Top Gear, or God forbid, Nigella Does Omelettes on TV.
In the latter case, you're more fucked than what most realise.

So... the fact remains that what we're talking about is diversity and change.
POF brought quick app dating hookups. FLABS (yes FLABS as in fab.swingers) brought in fakes, scams, (s)cams girls, gays'a'plenty and anyone who will suck your cock as long as you were paying, but the odd exception of the odd #SwingerCouple
Tinder brought in swipe left, swipe right.
Fuck ME!!
You fucking swipe for someone now? Good? Not good? Fucking SWIPE?
REALLY!

Bollox to that.
Nah.

We have brought in videos, which on a time back 4 years (3 actually server time with videos) on a hosted server, were all so new... and that was rare..
Now they're two-a-penny.
Upppp a vid, set your bait (cost) jobeth doneth. You get your bucks. Everyone's a winner.! John gets to knock one out, you get your bucks. £££££'s
But when did swinging STOP becoming exactly that? Swinging?
Swinging, where sex happens between consenting couples who wish to share each other, with others?
It stopped the minute the 'Sex App' was born. Because you have been sold out.
WE have been sold out.

Ahhh Social Swinging. Too adult to be FaceBook, too Facebook to be a swingers' site.
Nope. You, YOU, make it what it is and what it (ultimately) what it can be!
It's not us, not the admins, not the mods, but YOU the users. You the members.
You can either make it a swipe left/right site, a forum for chit-chat, a members meeting place, a photo/video gallery, or all of the above.
We've seen so many, too many, couples' become disheartened because of this.
How many couples' have we seen here, join and become involved only to lose interest because no-one else has interest in them?
Why?
Because swinging as a couple is harder than ANY other type of swinging out there. Truth.
#Swingingainteasy
It's not. All four of you have to be attracted. It's not easy.
Else what do you do? Take one for the team?

Even in a 3sum / threesome scenario, there has to be mutual attraction!
So, we're faced with a dilemma, move with the times and cater for "Single swinging" (hookups) or true swinging (couples with swingles in the mix) - or ultimately neither and close altogether!

You are fed up with Catfish profiles, fake swinger profiles and fake swinger accounts.
You are fed up with timewasters. You are fed up with arseholes ruining it for everyone else.

Yet we see so few doing so little to protect what they see as their chosen lifestyle and protect it.

Swinging is not for all, it's for couples and swingles. Not for swipers.
Don't get dragged into it through tech and apps.
Love and enjoy swinging for what it is.

#swingers #swinging #saferswingingsite #swingingnotdating

We're not a dating site, we're a swinging site for swingers. Where swinging really matters, unless that is not current anymore.

Best
L&P xx

TLDR?
Swinging isn't working for you and you don't fit in or find anyone you connect with?
Then ask yourself;
Are you looking for a cheap hookup and one night stand, or swinging fun with couples, swingles, whatever you'd like to phrase it - but not swipers? x

Nicely put. Yes it is the members who can make or break this site. If you want to meet then you need to put some effort in. We try to provide the platform for you but we can't set up a meeting for you, that is down to you as individuals.
We have seen it all, those members who have had great meets, those members who have met and now meet again on a regular basis (myself included), so it does work. If it isn't working for you don't whinge about it, move on and accept that you are not going to win every time.
I appear to be in rant mode this morning but I have to agree the Swipe Right/Swipe Left has no place in swinging, you are very unlikely to get instant sex, that's how life is but with some effort, who knows. Good luck and I genuinely do hope that you get that sexy meet soon.

 

[Ahabs]

I agree with you! We the site members make it what it is!
I for one am in it for the long term, to build up friendships be social & to swing!

Tiger xx

To borrow @Tiger's comment, but my version:
I for one am in it for the long term, to swing, but happy to build up friendships be social in the meantime

 

[Ahabs]

In the meantime, I could contact a million and one people with the offer to come to them, to have them at mine, whatever. But in my time I've found there are a million aond one reasons why people can't meet. Some of these legitimate, some less so.

Either way, I can't "make" anyone meet me (and wouldn't want to!), I can only hope to find those that are interested in me... preferably in this life and not the latter. Or as one woman said to me "Oh I was always interested in you, just wish you had made a move and asked me all those years ago, you had the time" to which I replied:
You had "No fucking single men - get it? If I want one I will ask!" on your profile.

 

[Lips_Pearls]

You had "No fucking single men - get it? If I want one I will ask!" on your profile.

Meh

 

[Ahabs]

Meh

What I've never understood is when soometimes I chat to a lady, trying to get a feel, and sometijmes the response is "Its my first time here, I'm on my own and so nervous, please respect that and not assume I'm here to play" which is fair enough.
Then other times when I believe I've done exactly as above, the feedback is "Well you never asked me, so just assumed I wouldn't be ready to play - if you don't ask you don't get".

I was at an event a couple of years ago (I think in Essex?) organised on another site, and decent attendance, decent mix of guys girls and couples, and I must admit no bad behaviour by any of the single guys on the night (a first?). Despite that the event received negative feedback from a lot of the couples saying "we were all just there, none of the guys would come ot ask us to play". To which a number of the guys commented reminded them that the promo for the event clearly stated "Guys, please don;'t hound the ladies and couples - if they want you wait to be invited".

My point: much communications is needed, otherwise you get scenarios where the guys are trying to follow rules of the night, yet you have others assuming the chivalrous approach that guys make the first move. Both contradictory, both leading to confusion. I'm no genius figuring out how that will work, but I do happily accept winks as signs "Yes, you may approach"

 

[Tiger]

What I've never understood is when soometimes I chat to a lady, trying to get a feel, and sometijmes the response is "Its my first time here, I'm on my own and so nervous, please respect that and not assume I'm here to play" which is fair enough.
Then other times when I believe I've done exactly as above, the feedback is "Well you never asked me, so just assumed I wouldn't be ready to play - if you don't ask you don't get".

I was at an event a couple of years ago (I think in Essex?) organised on another site, and decent attendance, decent mix of guys girls and couples, and I must admit no bad behaviour by any of the single guys on the night (a first?). Despite that the event received negative feedback from a lot of the couples saying "we were all just there, none of the guys would come ot ask us to play". To which a number of the guys commented reminded them that the promo for the event clearly stated "Guys, please don;'t hound the ladies and couples - if they want you wait to be invited".

My point: much communications is needed, otherwise you get scenarios where the guys are trying to follow rules of the night, yet you have others assuming the chivalrous approach that guys make the first move. Both contradictory, both leading to confusion. I'm no genius figuring out how that will work, but I do happily accept winks as signs "Yes, you may approach"

I much like you, get confused with the “don’t contact us! if we want you, we will ask for you” statement on profiles! Maybe it’s there as safety net or something?
Me being a gentleman will respect their wishes! Not wanting to come across a jurk, it’s hard work being a swingle!

Tiger xx

 

[Lips_Pearls]

I much like you, get confused with the “don’t contact us! if we want you, we will ask for you” statement on profiles! Maybe it’s there as safety net or something?
Me being a gentleman will respect their wishes! Not wanting to come across a jurk, it’s hard work being a swingle!

Tiger xx

As anyone who knows us knows, this is a MAJOR pet hate of ours.
Which is why we’re so concerned about this muppet kicking off last week saying we have a prejudice against single guys. We won’t have that when we totally support you guys. 100%!!
@Pearls can’t stand that statement either as well as me, and we’ve regularly spoken to people about it and they’ve then progressed to remove it from their profiles.

 

[Tiger]

As anyone who knows us knows, this is a MAJOR pet hate of ours.
Which is why we’re so concerned about this muppet kicking off last week saying we have a prejudice against single guys. We won’t have that when we totally support you guys. 100%!!
@Pearls can’t stand that statement either as well as me, and we’ve regularly spoken to people about it and they’ve then progressed to remove it from their profiles.

I 100% agree with you both! You are very supportive of us single gents! Going over and about, to make sure we are happy! It is very much appreciated!
From the bottom of my heart, a sincere thank you to you both!

Tiger xx

 

[Lips_Pearls]

I 100% agree with you both! You are very supportive of us single gents! Going over and about, to make sure we are happy! It is very much appreciated!
From the bottom of my heart, a sincere thank you to you both!

Tiger xx

You are most welcome. It's totally our pleasure. I see it as a mass prejudice and for me, it's akin to racism and I can't tolerate it.
Human beings... human. Some people! Grrr.
Anyway I don't send man hugs and kisses very often, but have one from me x

 

[Ahabs]

You are most welcome. It's totally our pleasure. I see it as a mass prejudice and for me, it's akin to racism and I can't tolerate it.
Human beings... human. Some people! Grrr.
Anyway I don't send man hugs and kisses very often, but have one from me x

The way I see it, each to their own as far as preferences. The differences i how those differences are communicated.
Example, if I'm propositioned by a TV for example, my response is "Thank you, but I'm not wired that way".
I like to think that means I have no interest, without making it seem like its anything to do with that person. It literarily is a case of "its not you, its me". Everyone deserves a bit of dignity.

So when I see some profiles that make clear they have no interest in single guys in a less than dignifying manner, the devil in me wants to go "I get it, you don't want someone else shagging your missus if you don't get anything in return!".

I've actually seen in the past couples say "swinging should be about couples and single females - single guys bring nothiing to the table", which makes me think so much to unpack:
1) "bring nothing to the table"1: the male speaking for his wife (heaven forbid she have an opinion of her own).
2) "bring nothiing to the table"2: he speaks as if any females in the equation are reduced to a commodity to be traded.
3) Alas, but you believe you have the right to single females? What do you have to offer her that is better than what she can get on her own merit?

But then, 15 years can open one's eyes. But rather than sound all negative, its all about making connections, seeing who one forms bonds with, and and having some absolutely fucking fun #EmphasisOnFucking

 

[Lips_Pearls]

The way I see it, each to their own as far as preferences. The differences i how those differences are communicated.
Example, if I'm propositioned by a TV for example, my response is "Thank you, but I'm not wired that way".
I like to think that means I have no interest, without making it seem like its anything to do with that person. It literarily is a case of "its not you, its me". Everyone deserves a bit of dignity.

So when I see some profiles that make clear they have no interest in single guys in a less than dignifying manner, the devil in me wants to go "I get it, you don't want someone else shagging your missus if you don't get anything in return!".

I've actually seen in the past couples say "swinging should be about couples and single females - single guys bring nothiing to the table", which makes me think so much to unpack:
1) "bring nothing to the table"1: the male speaking for his wife (heaven forbid she have an opinion of her own).
2) "bring nothiing to the table"2: he speaks as if any females in the equation are reduced to a commodity to be traded.
3) Alas, but you believe you have the right to single females? What do you have to offer her that is better than what she can get on her own merit?

But then, 15 years can open one's eyes. But rather than sound all negative, its all about making connections, seeing who one forms bonds with, and and having some absolutely fucking fun #EmphasisOnFucking

Yeah I hear you. Will come back to this...
yes a preference okay, but ffs have some decorum. No need for anyone to ever say “single guys if we want you we will find you”.
Put it this way, we do not meet single guys. It’s nothing against guys, but it’s just not our thing.
In our info, we state clearly we are happy to chat.
That does not mean to say that we will meet a single guy because we will chat. But it doesn’t mean we shan’t and can’t chat because you (generic) are a single guy.
Hate it.
Mind you saying that, the right person, the right attitude, the right frame of mind - and @Pearls and I have agreed we won’t ever rule it out.
Just be nice about it.
I see this prejudice as racism and you know my feelings about that, after the meaningful discussion we both shared.

Anyway. The emphasis is - we need more playing fun all over.
So send those messages out and get in touch with people.
We’ve recently changed how emails and alerts are handled so as long as those accounts and emails are still working, the recipient will receive it.

#SendThatMessage
#NeedMoreSex

x

 

[fincon]

My experience on various sites, and over many years, is still that I take profiles at face value. If someone’s preferences don’t include me (for reasons for gender, or age, or colour, or whatever), then I don’t under any circumstances contact them in that respect, It’s just a nonstarter.

That said, that caveat aired, some years ago I made a comment about “I’m vaguely amused at the number of couples who say ‘no single fellas’, or ‘not looking for single fellas’ but still view my profile or flirt with me”… and received a very polite, very sensible - I want to stress that - message from a couple explaining that they set that parameter only because without it, they found their inbox swamped with entirely inappropriate messages from single blokes, literally hundreds… this way, they get to choose.

I can’t say I completely agree with, or sympathise, with, that sentiment in every situation, but it did give me some understanding I lacked before.

 

[sthwalescpl]

We have been swinging (the real Mckoy, you know, shagging people at parties, clubs, orgies and other events) for 10 years, so are probably as well qualified to chip in as the next pervert... erm, person, I meant person.

I'm gonna drop a grenade in here (pulls pins, counts to two, chucks it....)

All sites have their pluses and minuses, success and failure, and in fact on some we do quite well (I wont name which).
Whilst being loyal to one site is to be applauded, name-calling the opposition only serves to polarise opinion, and create division, something which we believe should be avoided (They came for the Gentiles, and because I was not a gentile, I said nothing etc).

Each app/site has its uses, and each person/couple looks for different things... some just want to hook-up, dance the "mattress polka" and go, and at the other end of the scale you have people like us who like to make lifelong friends...……..and then shag them lol!
Each to their own we say, swinging has become a little more mainstream, probably due to the fact that "casual" sex is easier to come by online, and that means there has been a huge rise in single (and not-so-single) guys trying to find their next warm moist receptive embrace.
We just do our "thang", and let others get on with theirs, and if we match, great, if not, then it's onwards and upwards to the next.

 

[Respect2017]

Brilliant post, very well written, funny and informative

So, it's Friday night. Am sat here chillin' as I always do, chair up, tunes on, locked in, enjoying and letting hair down (what little is left as am slowly becoming a balding bastard) after a mental week and taking five.
Something has hit me like the squid that hit that kayaker this week, in the face...
(here if you're that bored: Seal slaps kayaker in the face with an octopus – video )

The fact that swinging is no longer what some of us old timers, perceive it to be. A couples' game.
Now you may sit here and say "Oh shit that old swingles chestnut again" or think aye about time.. or even think - revelations..
But the fact is we see it and have seen it for so long it ain't true. (Grammarian or not - don't quote me now m'kay )

By this I mean...
We've written about swingles (I affectionately coined the phrase swingles, now every mofo uses it.. ) and have done the same about Unicorns (dare we say the name) and those poor old piles of us who are - you got it, couples....

Swinging is an age old thing. New trend too perhaps. But couples' swinging is not the new trend. The new trend is being filled. Stretched. Widened. Cuckold.
Or (worse still, if you ain't happy with your missus being stretched for ya btw) if you prefer, having your bestie lad, who is now aware of your lifestyle, now all of a sudden taking your OH out for a night of: fucking senseless, while you watch Top Gear, or God forbid, Nigella Does Omelettes on TV.
In the latter case, you're more fucked than what most realise.

So... the fact remains that what we're talking about is diversity and change.
POF brought quick app dating hookups. FLABS (yes FLABS as in fab.swingers) brought in fakes, scams, (s)cams girls, gays'a'plenty and anyone who will suck your cock as long as you were paying, but the odd exception of the odd #SwingerCouple
Tinder brought in swipe left, swipe right.
Fuck ME!!
You fucking swipe for someone now? Good? Not good? Fucking SWIPE?
REALLY!

Bollox to that.
Nah.

We have brought in videos, which on a time back 4 years (3 actually server time with videos) on a hosted server, were all so new... and that was rare..
Now they're two-a-penny.
Upppp a vid, set your bait (cost) jobeth doneth. You get your bucks. Everyone's a winner.! John gets to knock one out, you get your bucks. £££££'s
But when did swinging STOP becoming exactly that? Swinging?
Swinging, where sex happens between consenting couples who wish to share each other, with others?
It stopped the minute the 'Sex App' was born. Because you have been sold out.
WE have been sold out.

Ahhh Social Swinging. Too adult to be FaceBook, too Facebook to be a swingers' site.
Nope. You, YOU, make it what it is and what it (ultimately) what it can be!
It's not us, not the admins, not the mods, but YOU the users. You the members.
You can either make it a swipe left/right site, a forum for chit-chat, a members meeting place, a photo/video gallery, or all of the above.
We've seen so many, too many, couples' become disheartened because of this.
How many couples' have we seen here, join and become involved only to lose interest because no-one else has interest in them?
Why?
Because swinging as a couple is harder than ANY other type of swinging out there. Truth.
#Swingingainteasy
It's not. All four of you have to be attracted. It's not easy.
Else what do you do? Take one for the team?

Even in a 3sum / threesome scenario, there has to be mutual attraction!
So, we're faced with a dilemma, move with the times and cater for "Single swinging" (hookups) or true swinging (couples with swingles in the mix) - or ultimately neither and close altogether!

You are fed up with Catfish profiles, fake swinger profiles and fake swinger accounts.
You are fed up with timewasters. You are fed up with arseholes ruining it for everyone else.

Yet we see so few doing so little to protect what they see as their chosen lifestyle and protect it.

Swinging is not for all, it's for couples and swingles. Not for swipers.
Don't get dragged into it through tech and apps.
Love and enjoy swinging for what it is.

#swingers #swinging #saferswingingsite #swingingnotdating

We're not a dating site, we're a swinging site for swingers. Where swinging really matters, unless that is not current anymore.

Best
L&P xx

TLDR?
Swinging isn't working for you and you don't fit in or find anyone you connect with?
Then ask yourself;
Are you looking for a cheap hookup and one night stand, or swinging fun with couples, swingles, whatever you'd like to phrase it - but not swipers? x

 

[Crezy]

We have only met single guys on here and that is one of Mrs c fantices that we were looking for so good thing they are here no difference to single women to us (next goal)

 

[Crezy]

I would like to add the wonderful thing about this site is it covers all aspects of this life style which in turn enables us all to dip our toes in other people's sex lifestyle and gain a better understanding of it. You don't have to like it but you have a lot choice, this site broadens the mind and that's a good thing we would love to get more out of it but a bit shy

 

[Lips_Pearls]

Brilliant post, very well written, funny and informative

thank you!

I would like to add the wonderful thing about this site is it covers all aspects of this life style which in turn enables us all to dip our toes in other people's sex lifestyle and gain a better understanding of it. You don't have to like it but you have a lot choice, this site broadens the mind and that's a good thing we would love to get more out of it but a bit shy

Absolutely. I think there's a bit of everything - for everyone here. Kind of like Toys R Us: everything under one roof LOL

 

[Privateparts]

Does swipe right means lets fuck, cos if it does then count me in x

 

[Ahabs]

Fuck me it's been slow in the messages on my part, hang in there I'll get to you

 

[Deleted member 11852]

We have found this site a lot better than the others we joined getting messages from paid sock puppets telling you all sorts so you spend money to send even more pointless replies.at least the members are real here and friendly.we have been chatting to a few people on here who are really freindly and genuine people at the moment we are quite happy making new friends and chatting with people we are in no rush to jump into bed with anyone.the social side is just as important as the physical side..although if the attraction is there and we like each other then it's a different story..