Italy is beautiful, long sandy beaches, family friendly place did not know there were swingers clubs have to have an holiday and check them out xTotally agree about clubs. As I wrote a few months ago also in Italy It's the same. I noticed that the more a club is fashionable the less It is transgressive. Consumers, I mean most of them, usually dance, drink, talk and show off to other ones on the dancefloor, but don't play and swap. Only few people are proper swingers. Some years ago instead most of them were real swingers and everyone played. Anyway I found out one club in Turin which is less fashionable than the ones in Milan but most of the consumers are genuine swingers and play and swap in the right way so I usually join it. Moreover I love visiting clubs in France which are better than in Italy, in fact people play and are less snobbish and also the cost of admittance is less expensive. This is only my experience.
Yes, there are many clubs. I would say too much.Italy is beautiful, long sandy beaches, family friendly place did not know there were swingers clubs have to have an holiday and check them out x
not enough here in Kent UK xYes, there are many clubs. I would say too much.
Quality over quantity.not enough here in Kent UK x
I agree. It’s a prejudice of sorts. But will reply more coherent tomorrow. Hopefully others will engage too. But we agree wholeheartedly. Why are some rules okay for others but wrong for the same ?The scene and all fetish scenes are very small, those to stand my bars and do nothing else, ok bearing in mind they might be very nervous, though if numerous attempts have been made to make them feel welcome, then they won't get anything from the evening, unless they get off being voyeurs, and probably end up being disappointed, suppose that e.l.james ?? book has something to do with it!
As for men also blanking it happens, but you soon learn who they are if man or woman, especially if your going to events and chatting to others, about catfishing and stuff.
Part of what is putting me of going to some of the swinger bars especially in Manchester is the weird dress code to dress smartly all in black!? If I'm going to fetish night I should be able to cover up how I want especially if I have gear on underneath, as why else would I be there ?
@Jaynerobert here we go. ^ a great thread with some interesting replies. XTotally agree. We have noticed the change when visiting clubs. A lot of the younger ladies make so much effort in their outfits,, make up etc But they never leave the bar area unless they go to the smoking area. It’s as if it a different way to spend a Saturday night out with friends. You can tell, it’s look at me, but you feel they don’t really swing.
The scene and all fetish scenes are very small, those to stand my bars and do nothing else, ok bearing in mind they might be very nervous, though if numerous attempts have been made to make them feel welcome, then they won't get anything from the evening, unless they get off being voyeurs, and probably end up being disappointed, suppose that e.l.james ?? book has something to do with it!
As for men also blanking it happens, but you soon learn who they are if man or woman, especially if your going to events and chatting to others, about catfishing and stuff.
Part of what is putting me of going to some of the swinger bars especially in Manchester is the weird dress code to dress smartly all in black!? If I'm going to fetish night I should be able to cover up how I want especially if I have gear on underneath, as why else would I be there ?
Yeah coming back this, I said I would...I agree. It’s a prejudice of sorts. But will reply more coherent tomorrow. Hopefully others will engage too. But we agree wholeheartedly. Why are some rules okay for others but wrong for the same ?
Positive discrimination IS discrimination. End of.
This is a natural state really I think. You’ll most certainly find more younger swingles in clubs - being more active swinging wise, especially with ratios. Because it’s mostly down to the safety aspect of it.On this and the other site I have barely seen any "couples" my age on the scene. Mainly single people but the majority of them do actually attend clubs and get "stuck in", but the majority of proper swinging couples have been of the older persuasion
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