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Pearls

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18 July 2015
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Very complex and sensitive case but I think it could be a good topic for discussion.

I have followed this case since Maddy went missing, I have always said that the parents are involved.

The night in question Gerry McCann gave those two girls sleeping pills, locked the apartment door and went for a jolly up. Now on returning there was no forced entry but the little girl had gone.

Police of course investigated the parents and even found DNA in the boot of the car which Gerry claimed the girls were always in and out.

Would an intruder risk taking a little girl when there was a risk of her sister waking and raising the alarm?

My theory is they arrived back and checked the girls and found Maddie had passed away from an overdose, in panic he drove out to the bay and in panic disposed of the body at sea. Sadly..

Portuguese courts have now just ruled that this couple are not in the clear over the disappearance of Maddie. I believe they should be investigated further.

If this was Joe Bloggs here and not a middle class GP then surely we would have social services all over us like a bad suit, yet these two can drug they're children to have a jolly up!

I hope justice is done for the sake of Maddie.

What are your thoughts.
 
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Max-the-3rd

have to say Pearls, I am inclined to agree with you. the whole thing is just a bit to fucked up.
and as for the social being involved, a family in a lower social bracket would have been turned inside out along with there family, friends and next door neighbors.
 
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I agree that something was not right about their story.
I saw a very interesting Ted Talk on liars and their body language. And unfortunately, the Mccanns tick every box of someone who has something to hide.
 
Pearls

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They have never been investigated for neglect. Why? What parent gives they're children sleeping tablets so they can go out on the piss.
 
Lovernotfighter

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They have never been investigated for neglect. Why? What parent gives they're children sleeping tablets so they can go out on the piss.
I try not to get involved in berates on this case apart from making the point they should at very least be investigated for neglect and be under social services supervision, because they left their children alone at night to go out for a meal and drinks.
 
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Max-the-3rd

I would imagine a lot more than you think there has just been a case of a little girl been given class A drugs to stop her disturbing the couples sex life, poor mite died
don't agree with anything they done, but don't think we can say they gave them class A drugs. I know Class A drugs and no sleeping pill i have ever had is a class A.
 
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Do you really think that if they had a hand in the death/ disappearance that they would have campaigned so hard to keep the story alive.... I would have wanted to stay out of the limelight as much as possible. Also no matter what their social class their lives have been turned inside out. It is so easy for people with no information other than that in the media to pass comment and judgment. Think of them as people who have had a life changing, horrendous experience... The endless speculation and tittle tattle just adds to their heartache. I have no idea what happened, but as our justice system does, I like to think of people as innocent until proven guilty
 
Pearls

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don't agree with anything they done, but don't think we can say they gave them class A drugs. I know Class A drugs and no sleeping pill i have ever had is a class A.
This was a seperate case here hun when a mun gave a class A drug to her daughter and she died x
 
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Max-the-3rd

Do you really think that if they had a hand in the death/ disappearance that they would have campaigned so hard to keep the story alive.... I would have wanted to stay out of the limelight as much as possible. Also no matter what their social class their lives have been turned inside out. It is so easy for people with no information other than that in the media to pass comment and judgment. Think of them as people who have had a life changing, horrendous experience... The endless speculation and tittle tattle just adds to their heartache. I have no idea what happened, but as our justice system does, I like to think of people as innocent until proven guilty
good point well made!
 
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Pearls

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18 July 2015
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Do you really think that if they had a hand in the death/ disappearance that they would have campaigned so hard to keep the story alive.... I would have wanted to stay out of the limelight as much as possible. Also no matter what their social class their lives have been turned inside out. It is so easy for people with no information other than that in the media to pass comment and judgment. Think of them as people who have had a life changing, horrendous experience... The endless speculation and tittle tattle just adds to their heartache. I have no idea what happened, but as our justice system does, I like to think of people as innocent until proven guilty
I disagree and if this was me I am sure I would be investigated more. Where is social services for this other little girl.
 
Pearls

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No because there is not enough evidence for a prosecution
They admitted giving them sleeping pills, they admitted leaving them alone in a room in a foreign country. I see that as abuse and neglect, so why weren't they prosecuted for this?
 
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had the disappearance happen in the UK, I don't think it would have been viewed as in the public interest to prosecute them, regardless of social class. The giving of drugs is more complicated, even more so because they are doctors and have an understanding of drugs.. so I'm not sure... but even in the UK it is not a clear cut case
 
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meet_the_fockers

Far too many indiscrepancies, most i do believe think they are guilty.. if they are not guilty of murder/manslaughter, they are most certainly guilty of neglect. I certainly would never comprehend, leaving a 14yr old to go out partying, nevermind a TWO yr old..in this country, let alone a forgein country.
These where 'intellegent' medics.
They ultimately made the descion, on that night to drug their child.. this has of course been proven.
Their descion on that fateful night culminated in the loss, of their beautiful child. This they will have to live with forever.. which to me is infact worse than any sentence, a judge, or you or i for that matter, could ever bestow on them.
Yes most believe they are guilty.. as do i.
Theres just to many as i said, indiscrepancies to prove it.
 
Pearls

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18 July 2015
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had the disappearance happen in the UK, I don't think it would have been viewed as in the public interest to prosecute them, regardless of social class. The giving of drugs is more complicated, even more so because they are doctors and have an understanding of drugs.. so I'm not sure... but even in the UK it is not a clear cut case
All I see is a very sad situation but I still believe they should be looked into more, hopefully the truth one day will come out and a very big lesson learned to other parents, don't drug your children and leave them alone. x
 
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had the disappearance happen in the UK, I don't think it would have been viewed as in the public interest to prosecute them, regardless of social class. The giving of drugs is more complicated, even more so because they are doctors and have an understanding of drugs.. so I'm not sure... but even in the UK it is not a clear cut case
Yes the giving of drugs can be complicated. Medics of course know far more about the risks involved than the layman, so to me, they are far more, capable and knowledgable of..the effects of giving drugs to a two yr old, to anyone.
The problem being, you dont quite ever know the effects medication can have on someone.. drug someone.. monitor them. .. not skip off partying.