Bi-men

[DiamondJoe]

Even tolerating others sexual differences seems like the wrong phrase to me. I tolerate the taxman stealing from me every month even though I want to metaphorically poke him in the eyes.

I don't tolerate my friends being man and wife, because what's to tolerate. It's quite acceptable and natural.
Equally I don't tolerate my friends being man and man, or wife and wife because it's not something that upsets me.

But yes I understand the point you are making, live and let live. Do whatever it is you like to do and leave others to do whatever they like to do B x

I use "tolerance" deliberately because it is the acceptance that people are different and do different things. There's plenty that doesn't float my sexual boat but I (largely) wave it on by.

We won't all agree on everything but if we can agree to be tolerant of those differences, we start out on the right foot.

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I do kinda agree with your comments about "bi-acceptance" as a term - it out to be implicit, rather than needing to be explicitly stated.

But. People are nob ends.

 

[Baldrick]

I use "tolerance" deliberately because it is the acceptance that people are different and do different things. There's plenty that doesn't float my sexual boat but I (largely) wave it on by.

We won't all agree on everything but if we can agree to be tolerant of those differences, we start out on the right foot.


But. People are nob ends.

Ah but tolerating and accepting are different things. For example I accept homosexuality, but only tolerate nob ends .
Lol I know it's all semantics but essentially we agree. Folk just need to stop being nobs and let other folk get on with it in peace

B x

 

[DiamondJoe]

Ah but tolerating and accepting are different things. For example I accept homosexuality, but only tolerate nob ends .
Lol I know it's all semantics but essentially we agree. Folk just need to stop being nobs and let other folk get on with it in peace

B x

Peace n' love n' all that other hippy shit people scoff at

 

[DiamondJoe]

Peace n' love n' all that other hippy shit people scoff at

It's like Orwell said: "If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."

If it's not offending someone, you're not doing it right

 

[Lips_Pearls]

As for clubs using the term 'bi-friendly' as acceptable, I think it would be more acceptable if in this day and age clubs didn't need to use the term 'bi-friendly'. Surely clubs should be expected to be 'bi-friendly' anyway without having to state it, after all they don't feel the need to express they are 'hetero-friendly'. Know what I mean?
But yes I understand what you are saying .

B x

Of course and fully understand - but let's look at the club and their rules I mentioned; they categorically state that in their mindset and that of others, swinging is straight male play only with bi-female play allowed. So they are saying that they don't allow bi-play at any events by males.
Shocking...
But another club for example the VA; they hold a monthly Bi-night and state clearly - you do not have to be bi to attend and play but should ideally be "bi-friendly" in other words, not going to do one if you see male to male bi-sexual activities, which sadly even now, a lot of swingers are still repulsed by. (Genuinely).
So they have to state very clearly to all attendees - it's for bisexual people of ALL sexes/genders and whilst you don't have to be bi yourself, you should be bi-friendly. They will throw people out for homophobic rants.

I see what you're saying with regards to being bi-friendly without having to state it, but that's going to be many, many years down the road. We're still on the edge of society slowly being accepting of others' sexuality and genders, let alone accepting that other males can and do find other males sexually attractive while being married to a woman for example.

Sadly it's not the clubs, but the people. It's the people they're educating and stating to that bi-friendly is essential during these events.
It's the people who need changing. The ignorance of others.
This is why I mentioned this;

'Bi-friendly', a label I strongly disagree with.

This is very important;

The term 'bi-friendly' is not a label, but an expressive way to say - especially for clubs, that said persons have no issues being around people of a bisexual nature.
In that context, it's a perfectly acceptable phrase to get across to all, not individuals, that in order to attend for example;
L&P's Bi Night, you must be Bi-Friendly - meaning you have no issues with that, which is a completely different context to how one would describe themselves.
I specifically used the term bi-friendly to calm someone down earlier in the discussion, instead of saying - dude, you're just homophobic - admit it.
That way the discussion could continue without heated words being exchanged regarding his blatant homophobic approach.

I see that you disagree with it, but to a degree, it is an essential phrase (not label) within this scene, especially for swinging sites and clubs - so the general public (swinging public) have a clear understanding of what it all is.

 

[Baldrick]

Sadly it's not the clubs, but the people. It's the people they're educating and stating to that bi-friendly is essential during these events.
It's the people who need changing. The ignorance of others.

^^^^ exactly this. I understand the clubs have to use these terms to educate the public and are battling against the ignorance and prejudices of others. As @DiamondJoe stated "people are nob ends"

Of course and fully understand - but let's look at the club and their rules I mentioned; they categorically state that in their mindset and that of others, swinging is straight male play only with bi-female play allowed. So they are saying that they don't allow bi-play at any events by males.
Shocking...

Society is changing my friend, slowly but surely, and if these backwards thinking clubs don't change their ways they will be left behind to dwindle away into a bygone era

B x

 

[Klunky]

Just to throw my hat in I've never had any man on man incounters but sometimes I do think to myself that looks good and I bet it would be fun so in theory I'm at least curious. Now I don't think I could just arrange a meet with a man and just rock up and get on with it. Ideally the way I would like a bi-sexual encounter to go is with a couple with a bi man who were comfortable in easing a beginner in.
Saying that tho there is boundaries and when playing and the male is straight it would never be acted upon and lines crossed

 

[DiamondJoe]

Just to throw my hat in I've never had any man on man incounters but sometimes I do think to myself that looks good and I bet it would be fun so in theory I'm at least curious. Now I don't think I could just arrange a meet with a man and just rock up and get on with it. Ideally the way I would like a bi-sexual encounter to go is with a couple with a bi man who were comfortable in easing a beginner in.
Saying that tho there is boundaries and when playing and the male is straight it would never be acted upon and lines crossed

That's very open-minded of you.

 

[Pearls]

Just to throw my hat in I've never had any man on man incounters but sometimes I do think to myself that looks good and I bet it would be fun so in theory I'm at least curious. Now I don't think I could just arrange a meet with a man and just rock up and get on with it. Ideally the way I would like a bi-sexual encounter to go is with a couple with a bi man who were comfortable in easing a beginner in.
Saying that tho there is boundaries and when playing and the male is straight it would never be acted upon and lines crossed

Good for you and agree with @DiamondJoe there, very open minded

 

[Pearls]

 

[Lips_Pearls]

Ok kinksters we know all you men love a saucy bi-lady but how about the ladies, how do you feel about bi-men?
If there is a bi-man part of a couple, does this put some people off?

For me I find it a huge turn on, both ladies and gents :bj1::good_shafting:

I'm wondering actually, just how many ladies enjoy the bi-men or bi-playful experience with men?
I have found that across the board, whether admittedly open or not, some of the ladies certainly enjoy this... x

 

[Lips_Pearls]

I'm wondering actually, just how many ladies enjoy the bi-men or bi-playful experience with men?
I have found that across the board, whether admittedly open or not, some of the ladies certainly enjoy this... x

Asking for a friend x

 

[Lips_Pearls]

@meandlis What!!!?? Something I said...

 

[Deleted member 6485]

Asking for a friend x

Of course.

I'm wondering actually, just how many ladies enjoy the bi-men or bi-playful experience with men?
I have found that across the board, whether admittedly open or not, some of the ladies certainly enjoy this... x

I will admit to watching bi threesome porn (mmf) on occasion, which is rather suggestive to me that this is something i would very much so enjoy x

 

[Lips_Pearls]

Of course.

I will admit to watching bi threesome porn (mmf) on occasion, which is rather suggestive to me that this is something i would very much so enjoy x

Oooh you saucy minx xx

 

[Deleted member 6485]

Oooh you saucy minx xx

..thats me!xx

 

[Lips_Pearls]

..thats me!xx

True! xx

 

[Jurden Jenkin]

Ok kinksters we know all you men love a saucy bi-lady but how about the ladies, how do you feel about bi-men?
If there is a bi-man part of a couple, does this put some people off?

For me I find it a huge turn on, both ladies and gents :bj1::good_shafting:

I m straight, my gf is bi and not into watching bi men but if ac bi guy who just fucked my gf offered his cok for me to lick her pussy juice off it that would be very tempting

 

[Deleted member 1030]

@meandlis What!!!?? Something I said...

Yes.

But not this evening

 

[Deleted member 11094]

Yes to bisexual men

 

[Carpediem2008]

I'm very curious but haven't yet had the guts to do anything about it.. .to be fair haven't really met the right person to experiment with... .That being said wifey gets all revved up talking and thinking about it so one lives in hope.. . Mr C X

 

[The-Gent]

@meandlis What!!!?? Something I said...





















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Dont speak with your mouth full !!!!

 

[Stew]

Tried a guy many years ago both ok about it but it really did nothing for me so no not what anyone would call bi, though in a 3sum or more sum, if there was contact I wouldn’t run away screaming !!

 

[Deleted member 11094]

It is interesting to read through this thread. And I do like a bump of older threads that have juicy topics - it is good for us newbies and also veterans.

I enjoy the openness of people who identify within bisexuality and/or pansexuality. Whether it is just a curiosity or something they are experienced with. And I think it can be really sensual when a guy can enjoy others regardless of their gender. It takes a lot of bravery in this society to be a man with a more fluid sexuality, because it isn't something that is celebrated in mainstream life. In fact it is often used against men as a way of questioning their identity as a man. So I'm never surprised about men being more quiet about it than women, because of how we are conditioned and socialised about this topic.
I find it attractive if someone is comfortable with all different genitals. By that I mean they enjoy both in the moment of passion.
&.. knowing your way around a penis, whether it is real or a strap on, can all be fun.
We're all on a spectrum, guys might be 100% straight or 100% gay, or somewhere in the middle, or 80% straight and 20% gay. Or change like the seasons. It's all good as long as they are true to themselves.
I myself am pansexual, so for me it really is about the chemistry, connection, & more. Not all people who identify as men have dicks, and not all people who identify as women have pussies. And some people don't fit into either genders. So it isn't always about what is down below, it is about that person & the type of energies they click with.
It is far more rare to see openly bi guys than openly bi women, so it is important to open up about it and also show love & acceptance towards it.

 

[Carpediem2008]

It is interesting to read through this thread. And I do like a bump of older threads that have juicy topics - it is good for us newbies and also veterans.

I enjoy the openness of people who identify within bisexuality and/or pansexuality. Whether it is just a curiosity or something they are experienced with. And I think it can be really sensual when a guy can enjoy others regardless of their gender. It takes a lot of bravery in this society to be a man with a more fluid sexuality, because it isn't something that is celebrated in mainstream life. In fact it is often used against men as a way of questioning their identity as a man. So I'm never surprised about men being more quiet about it than women, because of how we are conditioned and socialised about this topic.
I find it attractive if someone is comfortable with all different genitals. By that I mean they enjoy both in the moment of passion.
&.. knowing your way around a penis, whether it is real or a strap on, can all be fun.
We're all on a spectrum, guys might be 100% straight or 100% gay, or somewhere in the middle, or 80% straight and 20% gay. Or change like the seasons. It's all good as long as they are true to themselves.
I myself am pansexual, so for me it really is about the chemistry, connection, & more. Not all people who identify as men have dicks, and not all people who identify as women have pussies. And some people don't fit into either genders. So it isn't always about what is down below, it is about that person & the type of energies they click with.
It is far more rare to see openly bi guys than openly bi women, so it is important to open up about it and also show love & acceptance towards it.

Couldn't agree more...speaking only for myself it's been a tad scary and exciting.. .but we do fear it will put people off us.. We love to simulate an extra penis in th mix and wifey has had my suck her strap on alot.. But also more extreme play has been fun also .. I love how open and accepting the ss community is...ive only openenly discussed my curiosity on here . It's very liberating ...