Saturday Nights At Swinging Clubs..

[Lips_Pearls]

Clubs have rules like any business and establishment. Seems apt and poignant atm as this is the forefront of some posts lately... So what are your thoughts? Are there other ways and ideas that could be introduced perhaps, making it more accessible for all?

 

[Deleted member 7954]

One fee for all. Ive felt for a very long time thats its wrong that single guys in effect get screwed over for entrance fees. Some couples enjoy single guys...the fee should be a flat fee for all. Thats just my views xxx

 

[Antogs]

Yeah, the obvious one is same fees for all.

I realise some may think that because I'm a single guy I'm bound to say that.
Well, that's just not true. I'd advocate a fair pricing policy if I was part of a couple.

It would be a start if clubs charged the same for a couple as a single man but it takes the piss when it's something like £15 per couple and £30-£60 for a single guy.
It's blatant extortion.

I get sick of hearing that it's to keep the balance between males and females correct.
What a load of utter bollocks.

It's quite simple. You have a fixed number of guys and when that number's reached you don't sell any more tickets to single guys.

I think most single women and couples would appreciate the fact that male numbers were dictated by a rational decision and not by ticket sales. In fact, that goes for single guys as well. I don't particularly want to be in a club with 90% male attendance !!

I'm quite sure most, if not all, single women and couples would appreciate knowing beforehand when attending any event the precise proportion of girls to guys and not have to worry about being overwhelmed with single males who are there just because they can afford the ticket price.
And I'm sure they'd be more than happy to pay a little more for the privilege

And in my experience of talking with fellow single guys, none of us go to any event EXPECTING to have sex. We go to socialise, enjoy the company and HOPEFULLY we might be lucky enough to have a little sexy fun.

 

[Antogs]

Another point

Saturday nights.
It seems to me that almost all clubs expect single guys to buy a membership (for which, once again, they are charged far more than single girls or couples) and then be told they can only attend (often only after grovelling to the owners to obtain special permission) on a Friday night. Saturdays aren't for the likes of us.
This is also relevant to the previous point about pricing.
If, as the owners claim they charge exorbitant prices to single guys to limit the numbers or to make ends meet how is it ok to have NO single guys there on Saturdays?
They're bloody liars!!

 

[Antogs]

p.s. before anybody calls me a tight-fisted old scrote.
I don't mind in the slightest paying £30 to get into a club providing EVERYBODY's paying £30 to get in.

Anybody met anyone on holiday whose paid £500 less than you for the same holiday?
Welcome to my world

 

[Lovernotfighter]

not sure what to say to this but as I have said before an issue with the differential pricing single men face could in someway make the issue it is trying to solve worse i.e. those that do turn up could be more likely to have the view point I paid for some fun so will have some.
I don't know who to solve this maybe a pre-registration system for busy nights might be a better solution similar to how many speed dating events work.

 

[MP386]

Having been subjected to some rather unpleasant remarks after asking a question about club pricing and usage .. i am a bit reluctant to get involved here ..: having only visited two clubs one on a couple of Fridays and a Wednesday ,the other was a Saturday night ... neither club charged a yearly membership fee it was free to register .. yes the entry fees are higher at all clubs for single males which in these days of equality seems a little off ...could other establishments get away with charging genders different rates ? I would say No ..
In general Saturday nights will be easier for everyone, work , kids , travel etc ... I don’t understand why clubs think single males don’t have these problems and Friday’s work best for them ..
yes a lot of couples will want single Male free zones for purely selfish reason gives them exclusive access to single females ... which is understandable from their point of view...
I am not sure there is a solution to the problem ... you will never please everyone ...

 

[Deleted member 3411]

Been a single guy and now a couple (Ste talking obviously) so seen thus from both sides. I can undestand a need for couples only night as the atmosphere is different between both, but the extra for single guy thing has always been a sore point, after all if you apply reversal as an acid test (I do this for any prejudicial possibility) how would it look if it was twice the price or more for women, black people, short people.....
As said above limited access even booking in advance could be justified as it is true that without this a club 'could' end up 75% single guys, but there's no justification for just charging more.

 

[Deleted member 9925]

To be honest some of the single men make it that couples only nights are a much more pleasant experience. Unfortunately some are obnoxious and rude meaning couples retreat behind locked doors. Couples only nights lead to many more open doors and we have had full rooms of couples all have a fantastic time. This doesn't happen Everytime and we certainly aren't saying every single man acts this way but it has happened and can be hard for the club to manage without increasing staffing and therefore costs should couples pay this extra burden?

We do meet single men sometimes are we don't want to come across as single men bashing as we appreciate them however we understand why having them in a club increases costs for the club as staffing has to be increased

We've been swinging a few years now and these are purely the worst examples but as a couple we have had single men banging on the playroom doors, once barging in whilst we we're playing in a viewing room as well, a group of six men follow us about from room to room without even actually speaking to us all that kind of thing. For sake of balance we have also met nice respectful single men who we have played with and had a great time our points above are purely to show why we understand the higher costs for single men as the above issues were solved by staff intervention and the men were thrown out

 

[The-Gent]

One fee for all. Ive felt for a very long time thats its wrong that single guys in effect get screwed over for entrance fees. Some couples enjoy single guys...the fee should be a flat fee for all. Thats just my views xxx

Be fair the club is a business and needs cash !!

 

[Deleted member 7954]

Be fair the club is a business and needs cash !!

Im not the only one with this opinion. And i thought what i was saying is just that....fair.
Not many people would be happy paying an inflated entrance fee simply because they are male. Im not saying dont charge...im saying make it the same cost for all...fair.

 

[JEA4life]

It's pretty simple and "Fair" has nothing to do with it actually. If/When an establishment sees a decline in revenue due to a policy (IE-Charging single men more or all together not allowed on a Saturday), said policy will cease to Exist. That's just an economic fact. My opinion, fair or not, doesn't really matter when it's someone else's business enterprise. There are also valid reasons, unfortunately, that us males take Much more policing then the average couple. Our first night to a club in the States, on a Friday evening, was met by WAY too much Unwanted attention towards Mrs J. Anyone can have a bad experience in even the Best of places and sure that lots of guys are totally cool when they go to play, but that wasn't our Only bad experience.

I spent my younger years playing in bands, in clubs, bars, etc. I can count on One hand the amount of times I saw two girls get into a brawl that wasn't much more then yelling and shoving. I've seen guys Shoot at, stab, stomp on and about kill one another as well as the Help get injured trying t protect other patrons....Do I like paying more as a Dude if I wasn't with J, Fuck No! I just get it..

 

[Deleted member 5247]

As a frequent club going single woman I do take advantage of the unfair pricing policy. I would pay equal fees happily if I was sure the club wasn’t over run with single chaps waiting penis in hand for me to move so they can follow me.

I do agree that some clubs have a scandalous pricing policy and that needs to be addressed. Not at the price of me feeling unsafe though. I have no idea what the solution is.

 

[Phoenixcouplexx]

Some clubs do have a pretty much even price point for single guys and couples. Admittedly the ladies are usually very much cheaper but the simple fact is that most ladies wouldn't go to that club if they paid the same as the couples and single guys.
Also I think that if these prices were brought into line then obviously it is going to be at the higher end of the spectrum not the lower.
Single guys on a Saturday night is simple. When you are in a couple and there are single guys around the atmosphere in a club usually changes. It certainly has in our experience anyway and we'e done quite a few club'I now. We still into on the Friday night but you see it around you all the time when the guys are there. It is much more aggessive and challenging to the point a lot of ladies get uncomfortable and therefore their partners too. Anything that causes couples not to go to that club on a Saturday night the club are not going to promote, it' as simple as that.
Some couples are looking for the guys of course but if a club opened Saturday nights for guys then it is pretty much only those couples they are going to attract which is going to reduce their customer base. Which obviously is not good business sense.



See what I mean...

 

[MP386]

I have very limited experience of clubs but can’t say I have seen this ‘atmosphere ‘ in the two I have visited maybe it’s something specific to particular clubs in certain areas ...
we can all find examples of pricing structures but in general it’s single blokes getting charged the most ... would this happen anywhere else ? No is the answer ..,
It has been mentioned that single blokes are obnoxious and rude ... well in my experience couples can be equally the same .... point in question I was lucky enough to visit a club with an extremely attractive and sexy single lady ... throughout the night numerous couples were trying to get her to ditch me and go home with them .... even when I was standing next to her ... if that’s not plain rude then I don’t know what is ...

 

[DiamondJoe]

Went to a club with a friend and her hubby. I wouldn't have gone on my own.

Approached it in the way of an anthropological field trip

 

[JEA4life]

I have very limited experience of clubs but can’t say I have seen this ‘atmosphere ‘ in the two I have visited maybe it’s something specific to particular clubs in certain areas ...
we can all find examples of pricing structures but in general it’s single blokes getting charged the most ... would this happen anywhere else ? No is the answer ..,
It has been mentioned that single blokes are obnoxious and rude ... well in my experience couples can be equally the same .... point in question I was lucky enough to visit a club with an extremely attractive and sexy single lady ... throughout the night numerous couples were trying to get her to ditch me and go home with them .... even when I was standing next to her ... if that’s not plain rude then I don’t know what is ...

That is/was Clearly rude of that couple, but did you feel physically threatened? I think that's more the point that most would make, especially from a female point of view. As for "The answer No", I'd argue it's yes and I can site Numerous examples as such. In the States, it's complete common practice to have "Ladies Night" at the area night Clubs. The women pay No cover charge and Drinks are Half Price. Men(not couples or single men, Men Period) pay $20 to get in and Full price drinks. I'm an Irishman, 3 generations removed from Family coming here from Cork. My Best mate belongs to the Italian-American club but I like to go there with him. He gets in free cause he's Italian, I pay $3 because I'm not. Is that fair? I see it as it's my option to say, FU, I'm not paying that and then not go. It's their club and their right to say that's cool either way..

Please don't think I'm unsympathetic or empathetic to all of this, I very much am. Just providing thoughts and experiences from our lives. I'm a guy and it pisses me off when I see assholes doing things that I'm sure perpetuate the stereotype that we're all knuckle draggers and can't be trusted...

 

[MP386]

That is/was Clearly rude of that couple, but did you feel physically threatened? I think that's more the point that most would make, especially from a female point of view. As for "The answer No", I'd argue it's yes and I can site Numerous examples as such. In the States, it's complete common practice to have "Ladies Night" at the area night Clubs. The women pay No cover charge and Drinks are Half Price. Men(not couples or single men, Men Period) pay $20 to get in and Full price drinks. I'm an Irishman, 3 generations removed from Family coming here from Cork. My Best mate belongs to the Italian-American club but I like to go there with him. He gets in free cause he's Italian, I pay $3 because I'm not. Is that fair? I see it as it's my option to say, FU, I'm not paying that and then not go. It's their club and their right to say that's cool either way..

Please don't think I'm unsympathetic or empathetic to all of this, I very much am. Just providing thoughts and experiences from our lives. I'm a guy and it pisses me off when I see assholes doing things that I'm sure perpetuate the stereotype that we're all knuckle draggers and can't be trusted...

I see you point ... physically threatened no .... as I said in my limited experience I haven’t witnessed it ...
As for the other maybe that’s an American thing , it may well happen here but I have never come across it ... would be considered sexist here and as for the being charged for your nationality would probably be considered racist here ..,

 

[JEA4life]

I see you point ... physically threatened no .... as I said in my limited experience I haven’t witnessed it ...
As for the other maybe that’s an American thing , it may well happen here but I have never come across it ... would be considered sexist here and as for the being charged for your nationality would probably be considered racist here ..,

Totally agree and I happen to personally think it's Horse Shit as well but is what it is I guess...I can say that I Honestly believe if it hit the Clubs Bottom line in Revenue, it would End that fn' day...

 

[Baldrick]

Having read the comments on this thread, I've got to say I agree with @Antogs. If a club really wanted to limit how many Single Gents attended then surely tickets would be the best way to do it.
If the club really wanted to cap Single Gents at lets say 30 for example then they would just sell 30 tickets, but at the same price as the Couples and Single Lady tickets.
As @JEA4life says it's all about economics. As long as the Single Gents pay the inflated prices the clubs will continue to charge them.

B x

 

[JEA4life]

Having read the comments on this thread, I've got to say I agree with @Antogs. If a club really wanted to limit how many Single Gents attended then surely tickets would be the best way to do it.
If the club really wanted to cap Single Gents at lets say 30 for example then they would just sell 30 tickets, but at the same price as the Couples and Single Lady tickets.
As @JEA4life says it's all about economics. As long as the Single Gents pay the inflated prices the clubs will continue to charge them.

B x

I agree with that being the best way too. The issue, again, comes back to economics though. Why on Earth, if you're the club, would you limit your profit by limiting the number of single men? Hypothetically, it makes perfect logical sense to cap the number and call it a day.. But they're never gonna say oh no, we only want to make $1000 tonight not $3000...

 

[Baldrick]

I agree with that being the best way too. The issue, again, comes back to economics though. Why on Earth, if you're the club, would you limit your profit by limiting the number of single men? Hypothetically, it makes perfect logical sense to cap the number and call it a day.. But they're never gonna say oh no, we only want to make $1000 tonight not $3000...

I totally agree. They will continue to charge more until people stop paying for it.
I don't think they'd get away with it if swinging were more mainstream and socially accepted.
Imagine going to a Cinema and being charged three times as much as a couple cos they don't want a load of blokes watching the film on their own

B x

 

[JEA4life]

I totally agree. They will continue to charge more until people stop paying for it.
I don't think they'd get away with it if swinging were more mainstream and socially accepted.
Imagine going to a Cinema and being charged three times as much as a couple cos they don't want a load of blokes watching the film on their own

B x

What about date night? lol...in the states some theaters do Monday night Date Night. Couples get in as one Are ya about ready to scream or what...we're so fucked up

 

[Baldrick]

What about date night? lol...in the states some theaters do Monday night Date Night. Couples get in as one Are ya about ready to scream or what...we're so fucked up

you just need to find another single bloke in the queue and pretend to be a couple until you get your ticket lol.

B x

 

[JEA4life]

You can't make this shit up...lol