That time, yes. She's mostly very good and conscientious. Not quite sure where it's come from tbh
That time, yes. She's mostly very good and conscientious. Not quite sure where it's come from tbhDid she
That time, yes. She's mostly very good and conscientious. Not quite sure where it's come from tbh
They have a 'traffic light' system in the school room, with coloured Lego bricks. If you're bad, they're taken away. She, for the first time ever, got them all taken away at once without warning and was sent (briefly) to another classroom. When I quizzed her on it (she'd apparently drawn on a rubber??) it seemed very trivial and my daughter was pretty upset about it.That time, yes. She's mostly very good and conscientious. Not quite sure where it's come from tbh
Sounds completely OTT.They have a 'traffic light' system in the school room, with coloured Lego bricks. If you're bad, they're taken away. She, for the first time ever, got them all taken away and was sent (briefly) to another classroom. When I quizzed her on it (she'd apparently drawn on a rubber??) it seemed very trivial and my daughter was pretty upset about it.
I didn't say anything to the teacher as I wasn't there and don't fully know what happened and it's her call in that situation.
I did use it as an opportunity to demonstrate to my daughter the capriciousness and pointlessness of so much school discipline...
Here endeth the lesson.
Quite possibly but no real harm was done. I dunno, maybe the teacher was having a bad day. Teachers are people too. Maybe my daughter did something else to piss off the teacher. I wasn't there.Sounds completely OTT.
Exactly - which is why I didn't challenge it. As I said, let it be a lesson on school discipline.Except alot of the time it's situational. A good teacher shouldn't allow their bad day influence them that much, though they are human like everyone. Do you know what she drew on the rubber? How many times she'd been told to stop and pay attention? Or what she did with the rubber, ie throwing it? How many times does she and this teacher clash during school hours.
Not saying it wasn't ott, but having grown up in a college surrounded by teachers, alot of the time there is alot more factors involve then what the child, who thinks it's unfair as a rule, says.
We arent there to decide if these "stupid school punishments" are deserved or not. Occasionally they are indeed an over reaction, or just simply they are following the disciplinary procedures, in which case the procedure needs to be fixed.
It's a different worldI don't believe that corporal punishment should be brought back, but some form of punishment.
In today's society we are all too soft.
I got slapped when I was younger for doing wrong, same at school, taught manners etc played out till the street lights came on.
We are far too PC nowadays.
S x
It's a different world
I think discipline begins in the home and I don;t think it's desirable or fair to outsource that to teachers.It is but it didn’t harm us did it? Kids nowadays have no manners and don’t give too hoots about anything but themselves surely some form of punishment even if it’s not pc would do them the world of good?
I agree, bad parenting is a huge contribution xI think discipline begins in the home and I don;t think it's desirable or fair to outsource that to teachers.
In short; I blame the parents, not the schools
I think discipline begins in the home and I don;t think it's desirable or fair to outsource that to teachers.
In short; I blame the parents, not the schools
I agree, bad parenting is a huge contribution x
Here's a paradox: are kids safer now than they were 40 years ago? Yes, considerably. Not only are childhood illnesses on the decrease but road safety is up and many other things have changed...It is but it didn’t harm us did it? Kids nowadays have no manners and don’t give too hoots about anything but themselves surely some form of punishment even if it’s not pc would do them the world of good?
I for one can...Can you see the parallel or am I just talking rubbish?
YesWell as per thread title;
Should corporal punishment should be allowed back in schools?
Would it help with today's disrespectful youth perhaps?
Over to you.
Yes, sadly that's the way it's also gone.a very interesting thread
Today we have found out our daughter was sent to the heads office with other students. They are doing there sats shortly but have done some mock ones. Their scores were not brillant and she was shouted at by the head mistress. There is too much stress put on yr 6s with tests they forget they are children, not helpful shouting at them when they should look at what they need to do help them.
my son is playing up lunch time, when we talk to him he says dinner ladys shout at them and do not listen to them if there is a problem. He has gone round splitting fights up this has happen more since they banned football.
There seems to be no respect for the children so they show no respect for the adults which is a shame.
I dont believe in corporal punishment but fair punishment if needed. one of the kids in school who is very naughty gets to play with lego at lunch if he has been good, i do not agree with this as praise would be better in my eyes.
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Very interesting, reasonable viewsOk so i used to work as a Teaching Assistant and im a mum to 2, one of which has behavioural and developmental problems. So ive seen both sides of the coin first hand.
I think bringing corporal punishment back would be a minefield with all the do gooders these days. I think that schools need the power to beable to discipline more but to what extreme im not sure. I think the whole problem has been caused by parents not being able to parent due to fear of being labelled abusive!!! So the kids have nothing to fear...nothing to respect.
I was slapped as a child when i was very naughty. It did me no harm. And i respected my elders and teachers. I know kids that have been allowed to get away with murder...physically assulting their parents because the parents dare not restrain their kids. What sort of society allows this?? Ours!!
So maybe corporal punishment isnt needed but powers for parents to be parents and maybe for schools to have a little more power to discipline too definitely are.
Just my personal views. X
And you've touched right on the fault line of the debateSurely what works for one individual (child or adult) does not work for the next. You smack one with a ruler (for instance) that child sees it as a challenge, it barely scratches the surface both mentally and physically. The next child gets a smack with a ruler, it scares them and they emotionally feel fear and pain. Someone early said, I got punished at school as a kid did me no harm. On the flip side old Bob sat in the corner, it did and he was an unhappy or violent man because he proceced that information and conditions very differently.
No system can work the extremes. Most schools now have units to remove the really challenging kids. Support staff for kids who have learning disabilities. All the others have to be jogging along in the middle and muddle through. It definitely is a case that those who shout loudest.... And it takes a skilled teacher to strike a balance of control, using any available techniques! What a mine field.
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