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Again.. it was sarcasm...Badly worded , lost in translation and wonderfully cornered by you lot.
Again.. it was sarcasm...Badly worded , lost in translation and wonderfully cornered by you lot.Hope it was as I work bloody long hours some days it can be 14/16 hours
May you please point me to your scientific evidence base for this, and it would also be most kind of you explain who the vast majority of smokers manage to stay in employment.Smoking makes ppl lazy and therefore they cannot work? I don't see the point
For the third time in this thread, it's meant to be sarcasm to your post to ask why smoking needs benefits, LNFMay you please point me to your scientific evidence base for this, and it would also be most kind of you explain who the vast majority of smokers manage to stay in employment.
It's interesting to note that successive waves of immigrants to this country are typically billeted in the worst available housing that no-one else wants - hence the Jews at Golders Green or the Huguenots in Whitechapel, the Windrushers to Brixton or the Somalis put on the North Peckham estates.
I remember when I worked in housing that people who wanted a transfer (overcrowding or whatever) had a 10+ year wait in some London boroughs OR could elect to move to somewhere shitty but have a real home (like Frome in Somerset) where there was a glut of council housing 'cos no-one wanted it.
Your bottom line is correct, we need more social housing.
I never once said smokers needed benefits I seem to remember making a counter moral point to yours. This is in the debates section of the forums after all.For the third time in this thread, it's meant to be sarcasm to your post to ask why smoking needs benefits, LNF
I cannot form an argument for the above as I am not educated enough in these geographical areas.
In our location a lot of council estates are racially/religiously segregated. Some areas maybe Hindu others Muslim others Eastern European others White British. It's absolutely bonkers.
None are particularly appealing in my opinion but last year when we were about to be made homeless, we would've temporarily taken anything until we found something else (luckily I was able to find us something in the nick of time).
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It's a whole 'nother debate but, again, there is a school of thought and a fair bit of evidence that says addiction is an illness not a choice.It's addiction that's self induced. Sorry mate..I stand by that ..In that fags and alchohol is not something benefits should fund.
I think everybody misunderstood your point thereBuddy. .. I said that as a sarcasm as to why smoking justifies benefits to LNF's point
Thanks for understanding.I think everybody misunderstood your point there
I get what you mean I think.
You do not want to fund people who smoke who choose not to work.
I get that, but I don't think it's reasonable to say to an honest person who has been made jobless and is actively looking for work, that they should not smoke whilst being unemployed.
It's just not quite that simple and pretty impossible to enforce.
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I believe that's the result of questionable housing policy that was common across west yorkshire, Leeds and Bradford are much the same.
Yes, agree to that as well but that's a health are burden and falls on NHS. Agree it's a different debateIt's a whole 'nother debate but, again, there is a school of thought and a fair bit of evidence that says addiction is an illness not a choice.
But, that's another conversation
A burden on the NHS? Smokers already subsidise the NHS through mahoosive taxes on tobacco.Yes, agree to that as well but that's a health are burden and falls on NHS. Agree it's a different debate
I'm aware of it even though it's not something that really happened in North Yorkshire or York.Ah yes I forgot you are quite local to me. You will know exactly what I mean about racial segregation in social housing. Huddersfield also has various council estates where you will generally find it occupied mostly by just one ethnic group.
Yes very poor housing policies. Instead of intergrating people into the communtity we segregate them and split one community into several. Utterly bonkers.
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Ah the US is hardly a shining example of a good benefits system.Thanks for understanding.
Why cannot it be enforced? In the US, you get cash vouchers that governs on what one can spend the cash on. Why is it not enforcible?
Another debate thereA burden on the NHS? Smokers already subsidise the NHS through mahoosive taxes on tobacco.
What about people who... are overweight?
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I'm aware of it even though it's not something that really happened in North Yorkshire or York.
Lol, quite - but we can go around penalising various groups who cost us too much money/aren't deserving enough/whatever which is fine until we realise that, Oh, maybe I might fit into one of those categories...Another debate there
Not where I am (I'm not really in York).Why did I think you lived in Huddersfield?
My bad.
Oooooo it's all posh up there in York.
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my perspective won't change.Lol, quite - but we can go around penalising various groups who cost us too much money/aren't deserving enough/whatever which is fine until we realise that, Oh, maybe I might fit into one of those categories...
And that can change your perspective.
@Pearls for Prime Minister whoop whoop.my perspective won't change.
It's simple, help people who need help.
Don't let people like my sister receive £600 per week and a luxury life style on benefits. This is wrong.
I thought about it once, all them fancy suits an everything
Nope not for @Pearls.I thought about it once, all them fancy suits an everything
I got a leather mini skirt! Would that doNope not for @Pearls.
I fully expect you to turn up to Parliament in Leather or Lace. You'll get my vote.
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If you attend Westminster in nothing but a leather (or any other fabric) miniskirt, BBC Parliament would be my new most watched TV channelI got a leather mini skirt! Would that do
What no boobie tubeIf you attend Westminster in nothing but a miniskirt, BBC Parliament would be my new most watched TV channel
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