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MOTM
I can see your point ,yes women get put on a pedestal because they are afterall what everyone is chasing ... some will think they are better than others it’s human nature ..
I don’t think scene make women bitches ,if they are it would be there normal nature ...
blokes are the same ,you have those that think they are gods gift to every woman on the planet ..
MOTM
The only people that rule in this scene are people, we all want the same thing and we all want the same fun experiences. When it comes down to it it’s the individual that has control of their own actions and how they approach swinging as a whole, what out come you get is purely down to behaviour.
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But will it ever happen ?
It should be fun for everyone... sometimes it’s hard work and wonder why I bother but the good people I’ve met and interact with out weigh the bad ... that’s why I carry on ...
Men being restricted access to clubs on certain days there’s no equality there and I don’t see it ever changing ...
It is unfortunately what it is ... don’t think things will change any time soon ..
MOTM
This is the question but isn’t it down to people that make the change. If more spoke up about how they feel then that’s how change happens. Isn’t it?
Would clubs listen to their customers if more spoke?
No one is above anyone. They think they are but it’s not the case.
MOTM
What we need is the idiots out and that’s couples, ladies and guys, the ones that have no clue what it’s all about.
Bring the uberswingers down a peg or two and this scene will be fun for all ??
Bring the uberswingers down a peg or two and this scene will be fun for all ??
MOTM
You have tried in the past on single blokes behalf to get clubs to change rules which I’m sure we all thank you for but how many times have clubs bent rules for single blokes ?
would they change even if asked ... I’d say no ...
you have some clubs as members here but how many actually let single blokes attend Saturday’s on a regular basis ...
some do ? But is that a change because of revenue on a weekend ?
MOTM
More and more couples and ladies are meeting guys, if they can only attend clubs on a Saturday then soon, rules will bend. I don’t agree with how clubs are especially the fees. I only read yesterday a club that charges £35 for a guy and £0 for ladies.
Does that mean women can’t earn as much as men?
When you think about it, it’s discriminating not just to men is it?
Isn’t this the problem with girls just going to clubs now for a free night out but have no intention of doing anything?
Guys have let clubs down, we know this but ladies who go for just a free night at the bar at a swinging venue is worse in my eyes.
MOTM
Good point that.
Women get free entry.
How does that make them feel as a female?
Treated like meat as far as I can see. If you look at it from a different perspective and guys forking out.
Hmm no different to other places
Women get free entry.
How does that make them feel as a female?
Treated like meat as far as I can see. If you look at it from a different perspective and guys forking out.
Hmm no different to other places
MOTM
They don’t charge ladies because it draws in the blokes at £35 a pop ... that’s also depends on if they charge you membership on top ... then it’s even more expensive ...
it’s a problem that only clubs can answer ... sure these place take quite a lot to run but ... why restrict your potential earnings on a night by exclusion policies ?
I don’t know the answer... I don’t see it changing any time soon ...
MOTM
Prey to draw in the predator’s ... ??Good point that.
Women get free entry.
How does that make them feel as a female?
Treated like meat as far as I can see. If you look at it from a different perspective and guys forking out.
Hmm no different to other places
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This has long been the problem in the whole sex scene, women are on a pedestal and they are the desired ones. Thinking back many years ago to my shady past!! Women were able to access party chat lines for free but blokes had to pay a premium fee, that mentality has simply filtered down to the clubs. If you look at that other site over there ? the majority of single guys are dicks, with atrocious attitudes and no manners. Now if clubs are using that site as a measure of guys, then it stands to reason why they are excluded. What is needed in my opinion is education, yep education of club owners to filter out the unwanted behaviour of all club attendees, also couples have to respect that swinging is now as diverse as society itself, we're no longer putting our Ford escort keys in the bowl? but I have witnessed several examples of people who claim to be swingers ask for blind same day (in an hour's time) meets where someone, anyone can bare back his wife? swinging may recover but it will need a massive input from those who can start the change and then like everything it will filter down to the masses. (Sorry for the rant!!) P
I think the problem is that out there that is the majority. For us this site stands out as an island of normality. Clubs are always going to look for the easiest route to a profit and can you imagine if they said "you can come in because you are an SS member but you can't because you are on Mingingheaven or Fab"?. They'll play the numbers game.
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Oh I understand that, after all Money talks but imagine the profit margins they would realise if the field was level and fair, singles either male or female paid £x for entry and couples paid £y. I think and I may be, probably am wrong but, shouldn't those who have the ability to affect change do so?
MOTM
Do you see my point though. If women can get in for free then what does that say to women and how they feel. Some will love it but not all. We know one lady who on,y attends clubs on a Saturday with a male friend and split the entry as she wants to be equal. There is a fine line here I think and why are guys charged through the earth.
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Totally agree with Pearls xGood question and if I told you I would be giving my secrets away
Messages are great for some. You can see people without messaging. Do you have to bombard as soon as someone joins?
Ask yourself one question.
How daunting is it to join a site like this for the first time.
You get alerts everywhere, tags, messages.
On top of that you’re trying to figure out how to work things, add media and so on.
Maybe let people settle in for a few hours.
I see where you are coming from but I think it will take an awful lot of pressure. Part of the problem I can see from a clubs side is that their only revenue streams are the gate and membership. Vanilla nightclubs can make their profits from the bar. I don't know for certain but I bet business rates are higher for a swingers club as well.
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Perhaps one of the many listed clubs on this site could spread a little illumination on the subject? Now that would be refreshing!
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Deleted member 16044
That is what I was thinking trying to read and catch up
would be good if the owner of one or two would or could explain why in the world we live in now and we should all be treated equal here that a lady gets in free and the single guy has to pay heavily I am one for changing that attitude. Women should pay too. Clubs to answer our questions please? x
MOTM
I see your point yes and I understand that some like to share costs ...
for some of us it’s nice to treat a lady every now and then .. but maybe I’m a dinosaur ? in that respect ....
I think Eureka tried charging the same for single ladies as gents don’t think it was a popular move with some ,and I don’t know if it still applies.... Guys get charged because they are the majority most nights and as said revenue keeps these clubs afloat ...
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I remember a time and no I am not that old but have watched and read our history of sorts and kinds
and education was for boys
work was for men
except children were sent down the coal mines in fact whole familes worked
if you were poor you worked in the slums and lived a terrible life
women were seen as brazen hussies in fact my grandmother called me one time
women were not allowed anything
not even to vote
Emeila Pankhurst changed all that for us
as decades go on and centuries we have evolved
things have improved the woman does not have to stay at home and have the bairns but if that is the life you chose then so be it.
women have for years now gone to work but I might add we are not on the equal pay scale with the high earners men for years were always better paid
clubs and pubs will always have the odd one or two fights and I have seen women fighting over a man
one single guys or any guy is not I REPEAT A 2ND CLASS CITIZEN
As for club prices I am not a club owner and I do not make the set prices be interested to know and I REPEAT IT IS NOT FAIR THAT SINGLE GUYS OR COUPLES HAVE TO PAY MORE LETS SEE EQUAL PRICES FOR ALL AND MAKE THAT CHANGE
I watched a movie once and the end bit said yes, education for boys, she said no, education for boys and girls, equal and all! It was in time when poor familes sent their children to the rich families to be maids or work in the wash room or stable lads. Boys were paid more girls less for centuries it was a very much male dominated world. I even know that in some parts of the world if you give birth to a baby girl you are spat at. That still goes on today.
One thing is for sure I did not come here to not become a part of this site.
Still most of you made me feel welcome and you listen to me and accept me for who I am
I was bombarded the first day I arrived I was one that had been here hours and got pounced on and it made me feel like pearl said earlier up there somewhere that people will feel like it is no different to any other site and I was ready to walk away. What I was feeling was like wow this place has leeches too, like they never seen a woman or boobs before either with some of the comments that went up, one thing is get to KNOW PEOPLE and come here with RESPECT for others and others feelings or opinions other than your own.
and education was for boys
work was for men
except children were sent down the coal mines in fact whole familes worked
if you were poor you worked in the slums and lived a terrible life
women were seen as brazen hussies in fact my grandmother called me one time
women were not allowed anything
not even to vote
Emeila Pankhurst changed all that for us
as decades go on and centuries we have evolved
things have improved the woman does not have to stay at home and have the bairns but if that is the life you chose then so be it.
women have for years now gone to work but I might add we are not on the equal pay scale with the high earners men for years were always better paid
clubs and pubs will always have the odd one or two fights and I have seen women fighting over a man
one single guys or any guy is not I REPEAT A 2ND CLASS CITIZEN
As for club prices I am not a club owner and I do not make the set prices be interested to know and I REPEAT IT IS NOT FAIR THAT SINGLE GUYS OR COUPLES HAVE TO PAY MORE LETS SEE EQUAL PRICES FOR ALL AND MAKE THAT CHANGE
I watched a movie once and the end bit said yes, education for boys, she said no, education for boys and girls, equal and all! It was in time when poor familes sent their children to the rich families to be maids or work in the wash room or stable lads. Boys were paid more girls less for centuries it was a very much male dominated world. I even know that in some parts of the world if you give birth to a baby girl you are spat at. That still goes on today.
One thing is for sure I did not come here to not become a part of this site.
Still most of you made me feel welcome and you listen to me and accept me for who I am
I was bombarded the first day I arrived I was one that had been here hours and got pounced on and it made me feel like pearl said earlier up there somewhere that people will feel like it is no different to any other site and I was ready to walk away. What I was feeling was like wow this place has leeches too, like they never seen a woman or boobs before either with some of the comments that went up, one thing is get to KNOW PEOPLE and come here with RESPECT for others and others feelings or opinions other than your own.
MOTM