..An thats me cuaght up on this thread (hello all! sorry I've been away), but here are my thoughts:
Yes, swinging WAS about wife-swapping (car keys in a bowl, and all that): if you didn't have a car, you weren't getting in. And having a wife to bring along helped.
But over time, as people found preferred playmates and stuck to them, they'd find couples split up, but still chose to play with them (separately or otherwise).
Then you had couples that preferred singles: some single females (for MFF or FMF depedning who was getting the treat) and some preferred single males (usually MFM, but MMF also happens depending on persuasion).
Now, the definition had always been about the act and what transpired on the meet. So it was safe to say the people that partook in said event were "swingers", ergo the singles on these threesomes also counted as swingers.
So if 2 single "swingers" (swingles) that had experience of being invited to threesomes (and M and an F) decided to meet each other and their version on enactment, with no emotional ties or promises/expectation of a relationship to come out of it, why cant that be swinging?
Or better yet: 2 couples choose to meet and they have a lovely 4 some - yes that's swinging.
Then (wuth everyone's agreement) couple A met female B, and still counted that as swinging.
Or, couple B met guy A.. and still counted that as swinging.
Lets say both females are bi, and decided to meet on their own (who knows, guys ere working late): is that still swinging?
What if both guys are also bi, and they work nights but had the day to themselves and decided to meet while the girls were out (with everyone;s knowledge and consent of course), is that still swinging?
Put it this way, there's a "couple" I've known for some 5 years now on another site:
They met as singles.
Live different parts of the country (him London, her Birmingham)
They attend socials together (depending who travels where)
But, only play with each other AND have no plans to seek or play with anyone else, including other couples.
And they've maintained this "voluntary exclusive monogamous" status for the 5 or so years.
But they count themselves as swingers.
So my question: is it more the act, or who partakes it?
Just cause I walk onto a golf course, wearing the appropriate attire, carrying all the kit, knowing the etiquette and can reel off the stats. doesn't make me a golfer is I've never actually hit a ball.
Just my tuppence xxx
Yes, swinging WAS about wife-swapping (car keys in a bowl, and all that): if you didn't have a car, you weren't getting in. And having a wife to bring along helped.
But over time, as people found preferred playmates and stuck to them, they'd find couples split up, but still chose to play with them (separately or otherwise).
Then you had couples that preferred singles: some single females (for MFF or FMF depedning who was getting the treat) and some preferred single males (usually MFM, but MMF also happens depending on persuasion).
Now, the definition had always been about the act and what transpired on the meet. So it was safe to say the people that partook in said event were "swingers", ergo the singles on these threesomes also counted as swingers.
So if 2 single "swingers" (swingles) that had experience of being invited to threesomes (and M and an F) decided to meet each other and their version on enactment, with no emotional ties or promises/expectation of a relationship to come out of it, why cant that be swinging?
Or better yet: 2 couples choose to meet and they have a lovely 4 some - yes that's swinging.
Then (wuth everyone's agreement) couple A met female B, and still counted that as swinging.
Or, couple B met guy A.. and still counted that as swinging.
Lets say both females are bi, and decided to meet on their own (who knows, guys ere working late): is that still swinging?
What if both guys are also bi, and they work nights but had the day to themselves and decided to meet while the girls were out (with everyone;s knowledge and consent of course), is that still swinging?
Put it this way, there's a "couple" I've known for some 5 years now on another site:
They met as singles.
Live different parts of the country (him London, her Birmingham)
They attend socials together (depending who travels where)
But, only play with each other AND have no plans to seek or play with anyone else, including other couples.
And they've maintained this "voluntary exclusive monogamous" status for the 5 or so years.
But they count themselves as swingers.
So my question: is it more the act, or who partakes it?
Just cause I walk onto a golf course, wearing the appropriate attire, carrying all the kit, knowing the etiquette and can reel off the stats. doesn't make me a golfer is I've never actually hit a ball.
Just my tuppence xxx
Aye not enough shagging going on methinks. 
#fancyashag .... ladies please 
#fancyashag
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